OLD Tier List

I use atrahasis. So you can get a new copy of him in the next line of reinforcement. Use dreamhunt and he is at full Health. Sometimes i have 2-3 copies (wich means if he respawns in 3/4 cases enemy has to deal with him about 5-12 times) But its no good idea to use him for cannibalism.
Also i dont have auro to try…
Also i would Love to try him with wraithcaptain
I dont use his solo bloodcrave so much. Most of the time dreamhunt is a better choice

You gottem there lol

Here are my thoughts about the tier list.

I agree with all the S+ but I would also include these monsters.
1- Chromera
2-Jaguardian
3-The penguinator

As for S Rank
I would include
1-Tortogeist
2-Ice-fang
3-Celeshine
4-Oniblade

I would remove
1-Tezcacoatl to C+
2-Wraithhost to D or C

As for A+

I would include

1-Aurodragon
2-Revenarchion

I would also move nova to B

other things also need adjustment but these are the main things

Edit

And remove that garbage Sanctallion from to C or C+

I haven’t went through se but lavamane is not a S+ you got to be kidding me

Wow i just realised chromera isn’t s+ i’m actually shocked lmao

Thanks for your opinions :slight_smile: You recently came back to the game, right? A lot of those changes are taking monsters how they used to be. For example, Penguinator is definitely not S+ for PvP any more… it’s too slow and too easily countered. Also, Tezcacoatl got an insane buff in a recent update that makes him very viable and one of the best sweepers. He’s awkward to set up and link earth is hard to run without specific monsters which is why he’s not even higher.

Aurodragon is actually more viable than I give it credit for… it will be going up. Revenarchion sadly doesn’t work in PvP. It’s too easily handled by a smart player. It is a PvE god though.

Sancta/Cryo are now good in link teams and their assisted hit all is way stronger than people give them credit for. When testing Sancta I found it incredibly useful as a target for backstab, cannibalise or Angelion’s soul exchange where you do a hit all (preferably with attack boost first and cloning too) then soul exchange to stun the enemy and get a monster you killed with the hit all. They both have good uses like that in link teams, as well as elemental healing. I put them up higher to acknowledge this but when I shuffle things around in the next update they may be coming down a notch as they are only good in these situations.

Lavamane was not S+ until this PvP season. With the introduction of Diamonoid and Jaguardian there are way more people running retribution front lines that need Lavamane to make it work. I can’t remember it’s exact position but I’ll probably put it at S because it’s just a combo piece (not overpowered or anything by itself). I don’t put things top of the list just because they’re part of the most dominant strategy right now.

EDIT: Just want to add… I’ve tried my best to split the monsters across all 9 tiers, rather than letting them bunch at the top as was happening over time when Buckingham was doing this thread. There are fewer legendaries in S+ for PvP than each of the four tiers below on purpose, I want S+ to really highlight which are the strongest monsters out there. I think it makes the tier list a lot better if we can distinguish between the monsters more like that. However, this does mean that there are some monsters which could easily be in the tier above or below, especially depending on what team you’re using them in. As a general rule (which I wrote in an earlier post in this thread)… anything from B+ or above can function as an S+ monster in the right team. I don’t expect you to agree with the tiers perfectly and there will be a few monsters you want in S+ that will be in S instead. I hope you don’t take any offence to my reply!

Yeah it gets too easily blocked by protectors. Ironically Icefang is low because it relies too much on meeting protectors! Chromera is a monster I try to fit into every PvP team but he’s definitely not one I’d call overpowered, like the others in S+.

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Except warca/bazilogon, they got left behind ages ago.

Chrome is not S+, maybe S at it’s best

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sure but chrome still crits on aegis titano and lords. 3 very popular protectors. can’t say you’re wrong but i can still disagree. speaking of disagree i also don’t see what makes heavenswyrm s+ :thinking:

I’m struggling with seeing heavens as S+ as well. I’m sure it’s with the presumption it’s being used in Link holy teams. Pretty annoying secret skill along with camo can be powerful. But I can’t see how it’s S+ and Onigeist is S. To be fair We gotta presume onigeist is gonna be used with Malwing and Duscy😋

Onigeist can be avoided super easily

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i mean the shield is pretty much all it can do and that requires link commitment. 1 aoe and 3 shields are gone. stun flash sucks, i doubt its gonna survive long enough to get survivor off.

Heaven hard to kill and can heal any monster on your field. He a good monster

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he’s good no doubt about it but not s+ in my eyes though. killerdog just claimed that s+ monsters are and i quote ‘‘overpowered’’

Ok but not as good as heavens? Lol say that to the teams you destroy with it :joy:

Chrome struggles to put Aegis to hold ground. It’s quite a rare occurrence I think. Both Titano and Lords have horrible desperate moves and overwatch so he’s not the best choice there either. I do get what you’re saying though… a few of the protectors can still be dealt critical damage by him.

Heavenswyrm is seriously powerful! It basically offers something for every situation you might encounter when used in link holy teams. The high speed is brilliant and 80TU sweeping is brutal. There’s no doubt in my mind that it’s S+. It opens up a lot of other combos too.

Onigeist is very strong in the combo with Malwing and Dusicyon or even with Astrogolem (nobody has tried this one yet but I reckon it could work). However, it’s got a couple of big weaknesses like it pretty much relies on a teammate dying before its first turn in order to do anything and it’s slow, both to get a turn and to get going with its summon/sacrifice. Onigeist doesn’t offer what those S+ monsters do in PvP, especially for general use. If a monster is S and has a strong combo with two other S or better monsters then you can expect that to be one of the best combos in the game. Onigeist a key component but I’d say both Malwing and Dusicyon are better.

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Ih heaven is really good, S+ as kd mentioned , can be used in any situation to benefit a team,
Once charged, 80 Tu which +7 will be 68tu,
Pretty much deal very great damage, then it heals at same 68tu, having camouflage really helps coz there are lot of double strike attacks, and combined with protect, you can’t kill it.
It’s ss is also great👌

You clearly haven’t met me or @TheGreatest, we can really showcase heaven ,
You geomal wannabe :stuck_out_tongue_closed_eyes::stuck_out_tongue_closed_eyes::joy::joy:

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There are very few players that can actually use heavens effectively and consistently. It’s difficult to use because its versatility doesn’t restrict it to one type of team.

I’ve been using heavens before the buff and ss. If you believe that it’s primarily a link mon then you’re sadly mistaken. The ss makes it invaluable in link holy but it can be used in a lot of different teams.

S+ is the lowest it should be ranked. :wink:

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Well, it’s easier to sell to others if you take a look at it in link holy teams. I was actually writing about how brilliant it was with the small mention “especially in link holy” then changed what I wrote because I thought people might not be convinced :wink:

No one play Teztacoatl its a E not more

To be fair, does anyone actually have it?

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