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They should give it stun converter and make double poison eater 160tu.

No lol that’s Scorpiogeist 2.0 then

Banedragon has been an overrated sleep counter since the beginning of the game. It can’t be buffed, otherwise it would actually be playable other than when you’ve got Deathgazer behind it.

There are two possible ways to buff him:

• making Killer moves work like Payback Killer, so they negate revenge effects tied to the archetype they counter

• giving Banedragon a passive that’s like casting Poison Storm on entrance, and then giving him Toxic Presence to compensate.
The new entrance could be called, for instance: Putrid Entrance, Nefarious Entrance, Cancerous Entrance, Infected Entrance, Purulent Entrance, Pernicious Entrance, 5G Entrance, Stanky Leg Entrance etc.

Double Poison Eater shouldn’t be 200tu in general and I wouldn’t mind a reduction to 160tu, just like Poison Eater should be 130tu. Same with Double Energy Burst by the way.

That’s an indirect buff I like, but Banedragon itself doesn’t need anything specific.

Tygoron should drop down to A+ or A because stun revenge sucks now.

I think penguinator could be moved back up to A+. While it’s a lot easier to kill than it used to be, it still offers a huge reward and can be built around fairly easily to have a good shot at getting sba off. Penguinator seems to be at a higher power level than most of the other monsters in A tier besides maybe flarevern or the shockers.

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I agree with this, but I feel Tygoron is still as high as it is most likely because of its difficulty to kill outside of Roaring Entrance Chrono Killers and its reliability of getting Dual Give Turn off.

If that’s the case then it should be moved to A+ instead of A tier. None of the other S tier monsters are such a huge liability and it doesn’t have S+ tier level of strength when built around effectively like a lot of other S tiers.
I still think it’s stun revenge warrants it to be dropped to A tier though.

Yep, as a long term Tygoron user he kinda sucks now.

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Remove stun revenge and give tygo chance excessive force. 50% chance any move it uses pierces.

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60% would be a lot better

Jawshank should be A tier instead of B
He’s quite good supporter and one of the most use #5 guy :v he’s better than NightLord in PvP right now

Jawshank isn’t being used too often nowadays. It can remove dead weight and kill a protector, but it often becomes dead weight himself because it’s hard for it to do anything afterwards. I’d say B+ at best. Another thing I thought of is that Flarevern can probably go up to A+.

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Raw bloodcrave on jaw shark and you see a S+ monster

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He can Cannibalize himself when he’s a Dead weight and heal the team as well charge Double Retribution

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Player standards require everything to charge in first turn and start killing enemies ASAP . Toxic perception…

Recent disproportionate power creep into mythics is the one to blame .

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Or monsters that give huge benefits for just being there. Literally what’s wrong with the game right now.

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It’s as I’ve said multiple times; if a monster doesn’t kill four monsters in 100sec, it’s crap and needs a buff. But if a monster can kill four monsters in 100sec, then it’s OP and needs a nerf. The player base can be so inconsistent when it comes to power creep and what not.

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NERF EVERYTHING!!!

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At least you’re admitting it this time.