Too late…
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I’m not sure personally given the elements, but I appreciate it.
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Finally a comment from you I can fully support and I think most of this community low key agrees with this too. If this gets deleted it’ll further prove my point.
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Chill now. My comment wasn’t meant to start anything.
If you have issues with his moderating just talk to him. I assure you he listens, and that’s already more than most.
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That’s how this forum has been for the past 5 years,it’s honestly personal interest
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You’re absolutely correct
@Dev_VKC give me 200’000 Italian dollars (also known as euros) and I won’t complain (as an Italian) on Twitter about the representation of mafia in Neo Monsters
Imagine, #NeoMonCancelParty going trending!
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You guys are a bunch of muffins
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Luckily I know the meaning of the word because I listened to Walk This Way by the Aerosmith
What about in addition to KDs suggestion for the passives becoming predator entrance, he gets a new passive by the name of blood pact like previously suggested? It could be something like every turn he takes that he does not get a kill, he loses 15 or 20% of his max HP, but if he gets a kill, he instead regains 5-10% of his max hp? So sort of a mafia type idea where he either gets punished for failing his job that turn, or gets rewarded for succeeding
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This is off topic but I’m still mad they nerfed a three star monster
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Now that’s genius
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I mean to be fair that 3star did what a 16 cost legend wasn’t allowed to do
I support that idea but then bloodmania should cost less UT, but the idea fascinates me 
Let’s throw a realistic idea out there if nerfing really HAS to happen (which it doesnt) but for the sake of argument, I would agree second form Orca should be nerfed. Having basically all the tools that make final form Orca amazing but without the SS and Stun Immunity at 8 cost with Camoffflauge is pretty stupid, so I would take Camo off the second form and change the skills from RAW to regular.
wait if ppl,need raw skill get nerfed (have more TU),how about all monster with raw skill like dusic,jaguar,angelion,nova,nulltron,ahuizard,roccolossus and other 
Honestly what everyone is complaining about seems to be because Ahuizard is already a psuedo legendary now Orca is an actual legendary form of Ahuizard who in transit gained Camo, RAW Killer moves, and the True Hit SS.
What seems to be going over everyone’s heads is Ahuizard is still technically speaking a stronger monster than Orca for quite a few reasons - the first of which is that Ahui does not need a specific target on board to get a kill. RAW Throw targets anything while bypassing Protectors, Orcas is just more specific in that sense. Camoflauge is nice but AOE isnt a big thing in PvP unless you are @NMEduck. The most useful thing about Camoflauge on a monster like Orca is it prevents the Spam of Dual and LINK Slayerbane All being used against it, which their is waaaaay too much of anyways so people that are getting their immediate control and endgames ruined by Orca because they try to abuse multi-targeting moves are getting shafted.
It’s ok guys, it’s called Power Creep in reverse, you will have to come up with new strategies to steal games from people who are destroying you with one monster as you cant wipe 4 out at once anymore if Orca is on the board. It’s ok.
As far as Protectors and Instant True Hit go, I hardly see anyone using AP Spam or Protectors anymore as is, so how often will True Hit actually be viable? Chrono, Toxic, and Slayerbane RAW all have viable targets in most teams, that’s a no brainer. But getting panties in a bunch for Instant True Hit being a thing is just kind of silly.
Lets take into account the max destruction Orca could do before getting killed. Perfect Scenario let’s say Instant True Hit takes out a monster and a target for Orca enters. Let’s say its Oakthulu. RAW Toxic Killer wont come close to having Oak at HG, even the stage 1 Bloodcrave from Orca wouldn’t do it. Orca would just sit there and wait for an opportunity, meanwhile Oak can take back the game along with other mons.
I dunno, For such a monstrous amount of hate going towards this monster and for those of you asking to name stronger monsters than it currently, we can put it into perspective.
Moku - hands down stronger than Orca and able to wipe 4 monsters ignoring HG and Shield with monstrous passives to boot and low TU.
Magmarinus - great speed and Stun Immune with HG and LSBA will wipe 4 mons then continue sweeping.
Novadrake - obviously already brought up multiple times so we will skip this one.
Dolphreeze - Times Up, Bloodfury, instant adding of 2 Diamondoids, yeah this guy is definitely better than Orca. Furthermore he can use the Freeze on Orca to mitigate its TU. Phreeze may not take games alone, but the mix of support and power it offers a team is very high.
Delugazar - also mentioned already. Swift Chrono Killer, Stealthbane, Double Bloodthirst one shotting most Holy mons after only one kill, Timestrike, coupled with stupid high attack and Excessive Force to boot? Undoubtedly stronger and offers more to a team than Orca. This monster is even commonly used in FLs and can kill Orca outright with no issue then sweep through a third of a team.
Scorpiogeist - far and wide more powerful than Orca. I dont even need to go into why.
All this ranting and whatnot, can we all just please not freak out when a new monster is released? Yes things need balance and nerfs, but there are much better monsters to nerf than an S- PvP only monster.
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Ok my ban ended so finally i will be able participate in this debate. I had plenty of time to read all the 216 repetitive comments so now i will make mine.
Basically we have 2 factions in this argument which are the pro nerf (asking for pretty harsh nerfs imo) and the no nerf side.
The pro nerf side is formed by @DMGInterference @Tanbeer and @DevilsMisfortune so i can’t help noticing they are obviously biased and i will explained why.
First @DMGInterference well man by reading your comments above you clearly lack understanding of high bracket PvP dynamics starting by saying Padrinorca is harder to deal with than Gazer but well… The second fact that gives it away is that you sayed your FL has no killer weakness to Orca so why is a problem to you… Obviously is not the Orca fault is yours because in the FL you quoted Capy Pola Dusy Iris there is no damage potential on first turn other than Dusy which is 40ish speed so your oponent has plenty of time to do as he pleases with your team before that and the only you can do is KBR one if his FL monsters that joined by the fact you have 3 HG monsters is a perfect scenario for a team built arround orca because they will have some source of damage to take one of you monsters to HG and finish it off with orca and start sweeping so here orca is not the problem is your teambuilding and decision making.
@Tanbeer you are a top player because you ranked top 20 last season and your teams are always very good but you are clearly biased to me to because 1st you’re an AoE Spammer and Camo is always a counter to that 2nd you love stun strategy and Orca is stun immune 3rd your team is flooded by targets to orca (mainly chrono monsters) so i completely understand why it looks so OP to you because it will decimate your team in a fraction of sec but that’s just because your team is a perfect target for it so you should start thinking in ways to counter it back before asking for nerf less than a week after it’s release…
@DevilsMisfortune you’re clearly a top player too you barely played last ranked and you still got top 20 or 25 and i faced you once and you wrecked me i honestly think you can easily get top 10 if you put the time for it. But as we all know you love Poison and Spam… It doesn’t get any better than that for Orca i mean your team is Orca’s dream and you complain about it???.. I mean last ranked your FL was Freez Skele Gorgo Auro i had Blacktitan in my FL so i had a soft counter to your team but obviously not enough because your Protector Spam was just too much for me. Now i don’t see that FL remotely as difficult as 1 month ago and that’s thanks to Orca because what you were using was only beatable with an Anti AP Spam team which is rarely seem and not very effective against other strategies so you took advantage from that to keep spamming protectors and that’s what i think devs are trying to avoid.
So now that i explained all that i will say my point of view
1st Orca is extremely easy to kill Floccu’s entrance does arround 2900 -3000 damage to it so any following hit can kill it without putting much effort. A dracorosa Counter strike does 1200 damage Chromera Chrono Killer does 500 - 700 so as you can see almost anything can kill it if you damage it first with floccu. Also if Orca uses charged bloodcrave and then enters Floccu it dies because the recoil damage is huge 1000 in average
2nd most if the time Orca does not have a target because as a Meta changing monsters it’s achieving it’s purpuse and it’s pushing those out of FL forcing people to find new strategies and making PvP more enjoyable!!!
So i think Orca is fine BUT in the remote case it needs a nerf my suggestion would be increasing its TU to 70 (i honestly don’t understand why they made it 50 if it’s RAW Already) and 2nd remove Stun Immunity (i think stun immunity is a bit of an overkill in a camo monster because camo is already a counter to Stun and in most situations is enough so removing it won’t affect the design much but will make a bit harder to build arround it and will give more options to deal with it by the oponent)
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The master has spoken I shall not speak any further
I knew you were going to post here lol
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If there’s another thing I gathered from this thread, is that making RAW bypass protectors is one of the biggest mistakes the devs ever made. It’s perfectly understandable why Sneak Attack bypasses protectors as it’s an under-handed technique designed to play dirty, but RAW was made to be a restriction on OP monsters to keep them from being broken. I bet that if RAW didn’t bypass protectors, then there would be far less complaints about Orca.
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Then maybe make RAW not bypass protectors but deal more damage than normal versions of the move?