Nerf required (New Monster G.F. Mizu)?

There is no guarantee loss when u run completed garden fairy team. (except u run from battle) ,at least this is my perception when running gf team .

GF pieris Is one of the example to cover this formation again sleep or camouflage. And I am already said gf team have slow speed but have low tu skill. Most of them ignore Passive effect from Gf mizu

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@Dev_VKC Yeah Mizu has great artwork but that passive is awful. Although it’s somewhat restricting as it can sleep even teammates, there can’t be a 100% sleep passive, it gives way too much control.

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you said they are slow so very easy to eliminate quickly in my fl it is very easy for me to easily and quickly eliminate Gf and if the opponent uses Violet it is checkmate, and like the said Pieris is also easy to take down I don’t think it’s gonna pose a realissue. this monster this configuration is far from strong

It’s not 100% unless you’re spamming 12 fast units. She’s going to force some wariness about spamming fast units in the midgame, where nyx scares people running faster stuff in the FL. However, mizu can backfire. If they take control and you’re running slow units, there’s a good chance you’re losing some monsters before you can get a turn each time. I think y’all are reading into it a lot. Her moveset is good but not crazy beyond the passive

On top of that, unless the unit is over like 80% speed, they typically only lose like 1 turn and get pushed back 42-50tu. That’s not really game ending. It’s not a full sleep like you’re making it out to be. That being said, I would say if it turns out I’m wrong and it needs nerfed, bump it up to 60% or above.

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It’s fairly limited. Only affects fast monsters, sleeps for only 100tu, and affects both sides. If you all were thinking Nyx wasn’t good enough to stop using 80 speed mons, now Mizu will :wink:

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It wasnt my real opinion there i was saying that because i got her and planning to do some nasty stuffs where her :face_with_hand_over_mouth:

Not that easy tbh, normaly they don’t have weakness. Humanoid killer with very fast speed its also rare. I am already try gf few season only use 3 main GF and still reach top 50 (no myth ). so in my opinion if they in complete version , they can do better .

you’re just exaggerating your story about the gf being too weak to be used on the front lines. there’s a reason they’re high tier in pvp apart from their weak speed .

She is “maybe” not strongest GF for now , but if we talk about is she strong? The answer is Yes , she is really strong

Oh sorry then ,Finally guy with common sense🙂

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Hot take

I’ve noticed since returning that a big part of the meta being stale is due to poison.

TU restrictions mean very little poison in the frontline.
Gazer and Tridakhan mean lots of poison at the end game. Now we’re left in quite a scenario where the placement of poison is very predictable.

As a result of that, sleep is conversely always found in FL and mid and never at the end due to the frequency of poison in teams.

Now the devs release a ridiculous sleep monster.

I wonder if they’re going to push a hard sleep meta in order to reintroduce poison in the early game. Just a prediction / possibility that’s all.

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Ah, an academic right here! :partying_face::+1:t2:

You can run Nyx into Kunomi if you want fast poison :upside_down_face:

Sleep is nowhere to being in meta, lets just wait and see what will be on the most used list after this ranked.

Well obviously there are exceptions but you get the gist

Not yet! Feralfencer and now this GF make me feel like it could be coming

abused? it is the case i never said that to eliminate them i was exploiting their weakness i don’t need it, the Gf are slow and weak can’t beat my team. I’ll take you a simple example in Tavaray’s videos, it seems like he’s extremely powerful so much he takes down his opponents, yet when we faced each other and I was lucky he used this team c was a very easy win for me and it’seven disconnected, all that to say that even with all the Gfs together, your chances of victory are not very high, because they are not very strong

I would be concerned how strong GF teams now will be rather than Mizu suddenly unleashing some sleep meta that was no pun intended sleeping right until now.

On the other hand I would not compare sleep strats with posion strats since poison usually sweeps more than one target at a time, when sleep is mostly played by sleeping and dreamhunting one by one.

That being said, I am trying to hatch for Mizu to try her out with my sleep team, but I can’t say at this point if she is that broken as others try to present her.

And I would also now add again that with this new auto-sleep mechanic we need to see what is slept for how long instead of guessing when it could suddenly wake up @Dev_VKC

Aeronomatron said it best. It seems very strong and potentially broken but also has a lot of weakness that other good sleep meta units don’t like sakura. Let’s wait and see

My only problem I guess as a gf advocate and enjoyer, her sleep passive working without GF meaning she is basicly a regular legendary that also works with GF like dolphreeze being a good stand alone unit but being better with dolphins. Well it used to be that… it might’ve been nerfed idk

Dolphs are pretty ■■■■ now

Okay ,I get the point now .fine enough :+1:

So we have different opinion about Gf. U said they are not strong (because they are not strong enough Beat your team) . And I am said they are strong because I get good win rate ,when use them in the past .

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The nerf we all need is Violet. Because then stealth teams can thrive :partying_face::partying_face:

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Give Freezecobra its speed back
all issues are resolved

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