That passive doesn’t even need a Gf in field how is this fair that ■■■■ is more broken than sakuralisk
100% sleep even for 100 sec is stupid
Although good artwork on that GF but c’mon
Oh and here is the stats if anyone’s wondering if that thing is squishy
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Wow people jumped on this faster than i expected i wonder if it bypasses inosimania ngl
this passive has nothing broken lol, it only implies having to use more purification that’s all because the neutralization is done in both directions as for Bastia and aetheron, so it is enough to get rid of the purification enemies so that it is also blocked.
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Uk wht all i will get in here is team building advice on how to deal with it when my entire team is not affected by either nyx or this guy even in mid .
Better close this thread , all of that was my initial thoughts abt how a passive gives u so much control @Killerdog really don’t have time for this BS that is going to happen .
On the other hand what I do not like but then not, it is that it frees a lot of GF and the problem with these new GFs is that they find themselves to have liabilities of mythics that made them unique, what is the interest of doing that, I find it disgusting, leave the skills of mythics for mythics
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Im not saying i wont be effected but from what i see it works like nyx and is trying to force a slower meta insted of spamming high speed monsters for immidiete controll like enters the field get a turn 30 seconds later monsters
And then seeing how this passive effects both sides even the player using it will be forced to heavily restrict their own team building so say it dies its a pretty immidiate loose of controll so it becomes a very risk vs reward type of play
You get me? Im bad with words lol
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Cant be pair with Violet. Weird
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Its affect even your own monsters so it sucks
Mizu 
Vixen need a nerf
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Watch me use her with Sakura and Nyx
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Clover Mizu Sakura Nyx ?
@Dev_VKC we need now sleep indicators - how I can know if something was slept by Sakura for 300tu or Mizu for 100tu? I have the same issue when playing Iridescezarc and Gremoris.
No way its suck, U must Remember GF pieris have purify and most Gf have low speed but , low second in their skill.
I can see this is really easy win condition . Take example your opponent run 12 Speedy monster they never woke up if u pair with really fast sweeper like Cynthia. Or maybe just dreamhunt alone vs 12 Speedy nextline .
The only isue is she can’t attack if u not have gf. Idk why PPL said something about “force slow meta” . When we can see nearly all S+ tier myth is slow monster that have big power 
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Add a Bastia so that none can comeback 
@Dev_VKC I have a good idea
Remove Death revenge from Carmilla and give her sleep skin
Sleep skin: when an enemy hits this monster and fails to kill then it’s put to sleep instead.
Copied from Evertale.
Exactly, the fact that they N̶e̶r̶f̶e̶d̶ bastia clearly mentioning how hard it made to comeback.
This is even worse quoting the words from lemon guide
"An example is the category of “reversal monsters”. Put simply, monsters who can come in and turn the game around when you’re losing. "
Now talking abt this the mons that comes in this category are generally faster mons / entrance mons (especially in legends) , about myths same thing but yeah there is always the def factor there so slow stuff speed works there.
Not to mention 100 sec sleep is basically 2 turn skips .
About the passive being both sides one can use their “team building skills” and it is definitely not hard as there are many good myths (below 50% speed ) that support it (example soral , Wilhelmina , SAKURA etc ) .
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True
Pieris is too easy to eliminate to be reliable, and constitutes an entire team of Gf’s doomed to a guaranteed loss.
I had also thought of you seeing this monster it would be well in your team, you are the only one who would have enough courage for playing with a team constitutes very slow ■■■■ and it feels that it affects your effectiveness,