šŸ† Neo Monsters tier list (see first post) šŸ†

@Killerdog so doomgoo should be instant S+.

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He’s definitely way stronger than I intially expected, at least S

Here’s my ranking of all the mythics for HP boost. I’ll be adding it (and the other info from the last video) into a forum guide, coming out soon!

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You mentioned babies did not get boost. This is true for the last updade (i assume) as shared mons didnt have HP boost either

I didn’t? I said I didn’t know that they got boost when I made the previous video

I don’t even think i have 30 ore yetšŸ˜†

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I dunno that is Nighthunter worse than Bitterbeast or not? And what’s it tier in PvE?

Funnily enough, I added a new section to the tier list for exactly this kind of reason. Bitterbeast is not something any late-game player would choose to use, while Nighthunter’s petrify revenge is really good and it’s especially good at 10 cost compared to a DR legendary. However, I think more generally speaking, Bitterbeast is a good early-game stun absorber for new players and overwatch + desperate bite is fairly effective. It’s generally better than Nighthunter for newer players.

I’ve got a section in the first post in this thread which explains how it’s all written, which explains stuff like this. Unfortunately, it’s really hard to encapsulate everything with tiers.

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Thanks! So… Nighthunter is better than Bitterbeast in late-game to end-game?

Definitely. Lifeflip friend combos aren’t something late-game players use, but Nighthunter is good for petrify revenge against PvE enemies with a big buff. It can use lifeflip friend on itself to make it die as soon as it’s touched

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Thanks! Many thousand thanks! I’d rather stop use Bitterbeast due to I finished offline story. :smiley:

And if I use Megamammut + Nighthunter + Thornhoof + Haniwel, Is it gd combo, right?

love it

Btw, can we include a section where it says who has the ability to backbite/backstab stuff in the fl

Deathwarg/Shiny-seraz/Sharkex…

Thanks, i really wanna do that contest again this year cause i have some awesome designs ready already, just hope dev will agree this year and more people enter

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After the result of this competition i think many users frm discord will join.

Simuronix also. Equalize is extremely effective vs heavy buffed.

i would also include Balancion and Wavetail as niche options but useable for combo disruption.

Is this something people actually do in PvE? I’ve never known that as a strategy veterans use.

Thanks very much! Simuronix is definitely one I missed.

Balancion is one I considered, but I haven’t really heard of veterans actually using it in PvE. You can simply go for OoO, Soulstealer sleep all or other things if you want to RNG a sleep on the enemies. The shields aren’t particularly useful either. There are simply stronger combos for control that exist and it seems like a waste of 10 cost.

Wavetail I assume you mean its combo with boxjaws being unable to sacrifice? That’s definitely something I missed.

I’ve added both Simuronix and Wavetail to the section at the top (not to the post above)

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you never used backbiters to try to setup stuff like cresencendo or purpie in pve before?

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gonna make a belated shout for nefariodon also. even met a team using it in uc over 2000.
always one i watch for in island challenge

What do the backbiters do? You use the low star knockback monsters then backbite into stun and win with crescendo/purpie/etc.? Or for battles like in TA where you do that and win with novablast?

All backbite SEs and below are low speed except for Buffbuffalo. The legendaries/mythics which do it are far better… and that basically defeats the point of this new tier list section. Veterans will use the better alternatives. The SEs in this section are either unique in what they offer, powerful enough veterans use them anyway or very cost efficient for the use in a team where that’s relevant (e.g. DR in a DR team).