Better not tell you what Iām thinking, forget it anyway I donāt care about your stupid list
Sorry if what I said wound you up, that wasnāt the intention. If you want to argue your case another time then feel free, but itās got to be convincing to make a change and youāve got to expect some criticism coming back at you
It bothers me that you make a list and say which is better and which is worse and that the opinion/work of others doesnāt matter , although after all thanks to your ālistā I can say that I am the current top 12 with a mythical low level in my team 
Other peopleās opinions do matter, but not everyoneās opinion is correct. Iām glad youāre happy with your Lucifelle. I hope you can find a way to point out what I might be missing about its moveset that doesnāt involve being difficult to talk to. Btw you should say ā12thā, not ātop 12āā¦ that just looks silly
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Hey guys i just got Astrogolem and saw his attacks and im pretty stunned. He looks incredible. Why is he only B-Tier in PvP?
Heās rather slow to make an impact like a lot of mortar units, and he also lacks the instant reload
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Combined with tokens to sacrifice heās very good, but generally heās slow to attack. 180TU to kill one enemy isnāt winning any awards and itās roughly 150s after he enters the battlefield before he first attacks an enemy. Mortar monsters all have this problem of taking ages until their first attack and they really need to overcome it in some way to be appealing over other monsters. Astrogolem basically HAS to be used where he can sacrifice tokens, which is quite a niche thing. Itās worth noting that B tier is the middle tier, so heās perfectly average (itās not an embarrassing place to be).
What is it you see as very strong about him?
U can make great combinations with him for example if u play him as ur last mon he can use the 2 rockoids that he spawns for 30s reloads and if u generally playin with mons that can spawn rockoids at the end then he is gonna be crazy good
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The play pattern Iāve noticed with that is the opponent kills Astrogolem before any rockoids enter. You can see Astro coming so itās relatively easy to bring it in and NOT any rocks so then itās forced to use the normal load and the opponent has plenty of time to kill it or practically all the rocks (so it doesnāt have much fuel) before it gets more turns. So while I agree itās strong in this position, I donāt think it performs super well in practice.
Where I think it works nicely is with certain monsters that create tokens. Harleking and Kuraokami are nice for that. Stunt double monsters are nice too. A personal favourite combo is with Onigeist who can repeatedly pull back a teammate with a good entrance then Astro sacrifices the Onigo to rapidly sweep and sleep the enemy team.
Itās also a good option for mortar give turn loop combos since it has stun immunity and a 50TU piercing move.
Overall, I like the potential and think if you build around it the monster can do well. However, it can be a bit clunky in practice even when youāve gone through the effort of building around it so for me personally I donāt think it can be very high in the tier list. I may consider pushing it up one tier though.
That is, assuming he enters the field together with a Rockoid/Bronzeshell. If your opponent is smart and lets just Astrogolem enter the field, youāre forced to use Load Mortar which is a very slow option for endgame.
That is, if your opponent doesnāt outright kill it immediately.
I use it very often in endgame and the only times I can safely start sweeping with it are when the opponent accidentally lets Astrogolem enter the field together with a Rockoid (e.g. if they use Slayerbane All) or when the opponent doesnāt use Poison (Astrogolem is extremely frail and without the shield it dies with extreme ease).
Iād say Astrogolem should be paired with Novemdomina for viability outside of endgame (for example, Fastbreaker Mortar in FL is almost always a guaranteed kill)
Thx for ur opinions on that. Now ik some downsides.
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Have you been able to hatch it? Iād be interested to hear any personal experience you have with it. I barely ever see it used and my experience has mainly been it in 16th slot and Iāve dealt with it before itās got going or allowed it to get a couple of kills because it will run out of rocks to sacrifice before I lose.
As for the shop Iād recommend Dusicyon if you donāt have it yet already. Hanzowolf is nice for PvE. Otherwise, I wouldnāt personally go for anything on that page because they are not shop limited (they have a chance to be featured in an egg). 6* tickets are hard to come by so Iād only go for āshop onlyā stuff unless you are desperate for a particular monster.
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I already hot Dusi and no i didnt play with Astrogolem yet but hopefully in future. I couldnt play it bc of the stupid special ruleā¦ dont have that many fire mons
this is the strongest for many, it is a defense and at the same time it is an extra monster no matter if it is good or bad, I personally use it in team finals and I have also seen other players using it because of getting a not so strong monster does not interfere with the teamās alignment and in a good case copies a moku infernicon penguin or a strong poisonous element that occasionally saves the game, it is the ideal partner for cani at the end
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Thatās a good point about using it in the end-game. Iāll give it a try there myself and see how it does!
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Spookoid is amazing and its a great support for stealth teams , 60% chance mirror revenge its pretty good , i used him on this special rule PVP and won some games cus of him
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ārandomlyā put your awakened Mythic in your teamā¦ 
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We need to discuss something guys. Why is spectrefox shiny only S- in PvP? He offers stun protection for the whole fight he respawns, he kills stun mons, kills stealth mons, and he can purify all. That sounds like S+
Itās S tier, not S-.
Itās good for general purpose stun protection and easy to jam into a lot of teams. However, itās not quite as good as the best SEs in my opinion. It can be stunned out of play or left unable to do much in quite a few scenarios. Donāt get me wrong, itās excellent, which is why itās S tier. Feel free to have your own opinion. I know itās the most popular choice for stun protection.