🏆 Neo Monsters tier list (see first post) 🏆

I was asking which A tier monsters you think are weak
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As for Ziberius, I just listed a bunch of alternatives in the last post and never said he wasn’t a playable option
 he’s simply badly outclassed and overrated. I like how people are using his single stun revenge for combos now
 that’s one thing I can definitely get behind.

As mythics rise in use I bet/hope we’ll finally see the death of Ziberius in FLs. It should’ve happened long ago but now his damage will truly not be doing anything so he’ll become like a Lavamane.

I did not say that A’s were weak just compare A in general with him, I really don’t think I’m overrated but hey is your opinion so ok

Anagram??? What do you mean by that?

I was referring to the set of level A monsters

So you were saying that Zib is an ‘excellent set of level A monsters’? So you believe Zib should be A and not E? Just trying to get to the bottom of it.

I say, that’s why the part that they do not value

Wouldn’t the fast piercing damage from single stun revenge frontline work well to counter slower and bulkier mythic frontlines? That’s always been the case with fast frontlines in the past like cani aoe, gallio + haniwel, toxic entrance, etc.

Yes that particular combo has some viability in the long run, as long as they don’t change the way single stun revenge triggers stun counter. Tbh, I’m happy to move Ziberius higher in the tier list due to that combo but no higher than a C tier.

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The second part to the videos taking a look at some of the top tier monsters for PvP

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I used it in FL to get the top 1 in PvP but never in this way, I only used it to use his Double Revenge and it was always very useful in many cases, it also served to cannibalize someone Whether it’s been stuning, or just to bring an Absorbe / Counter stun, Zibel is just awesome for me, he almost always did his job very well, I think he deserves a better place on this list

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I don’t quite understand why Doomengine is S- tier whereas Staticsphere is D tier.

I just came across a random Aurordragon + Atharasis + Staticsphere + Utopion combo and they gave me a lot of trouble. Basically Staticsphere, Aurordragon and Utopion kept a large portion of my team stun locked. In combination with Aurordragon I find Staticsphere to be a lot more useful than Dommengine.

Are their values based only on their own ability or also on their ability to be paired with other monsters?

Because Aurordragon by itself is mostly useless yet of course it might be THE best support monster.

It sounds like you’re looking in the “general” tier list but you’re thinking about their use in PvP. For PvP Staticsphere is B tier and Doomengine is F tier. The “general” tier list is talking about all PvE, specifically when you’re the one using them (not an enemy you meet). Staticsphere doesn’t do high enough damage against buffed enemies and the clones die too easily before you can clone again. In PvP it’s really good if you can clone once or twice because it’s guaranteed to do a lot of damage to the enemies.

Btw we use the term “stun locked” to refer to literally just the “stun” mechanic. A stun lock is where a team is all stunned by 200s+ and typically it’s used so the person then kills one monster and continues to kill the newly entering monster while all the others are stuck out of play. I recommend you say something like “I was locked out of the battle because I couldn’t get through the combo” when you’re talking about what you just said.

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Any hot takes on Scolopendragon so far?

My impression is that with a +9 buff he’d be fast enough to do some serious demolishing, but he needs some luck (and probably a protector) to get going. Still, potentially 7 insta-kills make him great for pve.

I’m gonna say
 S- or A for PvE, B for PVP?

Definitely not B when you can make him dead (or at least start over collecting kills) by reseting his kills after he uses first skill

Point taken, although how many monsters have kill reset though? Is this common practice in high level pvp now? I was under the impression that it was a relitively rare skill.

And, yes, he is a bit of a one-note fighter
 unlike, say, Hanzowolf where there’s a few different ways to play him and synergize with a team, this guy is just an insta-kill machine.

My rating for pve remains unchanged though, S- or A is my estimate.

Maybe B for PvE, but probably E for PvP (I’d say)

Knockback/Repulse are super common and they reset kills

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Lmao
F for both

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Or maybe even lower.
His design is messed up and needs a rework

Tell that to motor/ malwing /dual users lmao

just pair him with gryphknight and another gt mon. potential for 7 kills in 100tu - less if they are potted/accelerated. definitely not f tier.

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