I think chronotitan should be moved up. In general category.
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Yes
With the bomb curse+ buff I think that’s an easy S+ tier for the general category.
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No cuz if you kill it it dies
Jocodragon imo is a A tier monster
Indeed, like Chronotitan, we will all be killed by death someday.
I wanna die like this
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People waiting for the tier list update be like… 
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Meanwhile I’m sat here waiting for a new monster that isn’t only in the shop. I won’t do an update to the tier list until we get more new monsters somewhere. I’ll do the stuff for version 2.18 soon though.
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I would say a direct S or S- tier
There will be a tough competition between both the se . Although I think shiny spectre will have the advantage over joco but still jocodragon has got a lot of use and in some cases it might be better than spectre what do h guys think.
They’re very different in practice I think…
Shiny Spectrefox is probably the most reliable form of stun protection out there, being incredibly hard to remove. If you want a single answer to stun then this is probably it. However, it also does nothing if stunned out of play so if the opponent is playing any stun it’s probably better to simply let the fox get stunned and play the battle as a 4v3. I personally think it trades stun protection effectiveness for reliability.
Jocodragon offers you a lot of control with the two “next” moves and gravity field. It can’t be stunned out of play and can ultimately remove itself if you’re not meeting any stun. The downsides are it can be killed relatively easily and it may not have impactful moves while on the battlefield, unlike the fox who can be a sweeper. So this monster falls into the category of situational support stun protection with a couple of very effective fail cases (betray and stun martyr). It’s basically a huge upgrade over what we’ve previously seen as SE stun protection.
I’m still torn between which one is more competitive. Having played against shiny Spectrefox with stun now I see its limitations. It does the job but it’s no stun counter or Bloomeluga. I hope lots of people use Jocodragon next PvP season so I can get a good idea of it.
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Really in honest you would use and it once it’s only killer move betray and then the front team will get the jocodragon imo I feel it’s just not that good it can get killed easily but most of the time it will only get one kill and die
That’s why I think it’s a A tier mon but then again let’s see how the PVP seen goes
The only combo I can think of is to become food for blood moves once it uses betray
You could kill an enemy and make a permanent semi deadweight on their team although they get stun protection because of it.So its not really a good move to use if you are using stun.But he’s definitely s+ tier se because of its “poor man’s” version of mermaids hex.
The advantages with using him is he can kill an enemy while create a semi deadweight to create a 3 v 4 interms of aggression.
It’s also good because of its ability to remove itself when it’s stunned too much
The disadvantage is you can’t use it’s dead weight move if you use stun
It can mess up your team after it’s gone to the enemy team because of its knockback next.
You also can’t use any disruption moves like repulse with it.(but that’s also an advantage tho)
Not everything needs aggression. Its primary use is stun protection. Gravity field is an incredibly useful passive and it has a far upgraded version of stun absorber. Honestly, the fact it has an instant kill move is surprising on a SE. After we’ve used it a bit we’ll have a better judge of its power but it could potentially see lots of use in PvP going forward.
Giving an stun absorber to opponent might be a good option we can make the battle 2v4 if opponent too has a stun absorber.
Well my judgement is gonna happen on the PVP day
@Killerdog I think Hanzowolf should be placed in D(PvP)
that revenge is good for ap lock teams but you need to build around him a lot
He isn’t that good on his own in PvP
I disagree. Petrify revenge with protect teammates is incredibly powerful and it’s excellent setup for raw or true hit. As soon as the rockoid is created, the enemy team is slowed down considerably. I don’t think it’s as strong as Skeleviathan though
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