U donāt know about PvP because I never met one but itās not so good in PvE. I used the one shared by @Tanbeer and didnāt see it doing much even with my mechaviathan.
Razorstorm?
Itās pretty good in PvE from what Iāve tested
Raw link life filp enemy is an instant kill when he gets turn!!!
For PvP itās just not viable in the current meta as KD said because of the massive amount of chrono killers
This guy isnāt meant to be used with gts its just too inefficient like that
I meant with another robotic type. For union attack.
As more monsters enter in the higher tiers things need to move down to balance out the tier list. Thatās the main reason for Naāturgoul. As for Novemdomina⦠I love the design but I think it is less well suited for PvE and the fact link requirements are more heavily considered in the āgeneralā lists means it should be lower than it performs.
Thereās a very good chance it will go up to that later.
Not sure if this is the best place to ask this question, but Iāll give it a try.
I understand these tiers for PVE are for general use, but I was curious of which mons would be S+ in PVE against highly buffed enemies? Or if it is more of a move set that is more viable against highly buffed enemies? Iām strictly a PVE player, therefore I think it would help to know which mons are best against highly buffed enemies since it seems like a lot of special events feature high buffs. Thanks!
āGeneralā basically means āPvEā. The monsters are more or less already ranked in that order.
As a rule of thumb, though, remember to favour the following monsters against overbuffed enemies in PvE:
⢠monsters that can revive other monsters
⢠Death/Payback/Mirror Revenge
⢠moves that ignore defences or monsters with Excessive Force
⢠moves that insta-kill (Deathstroke, Death Sentence)
⢠lots of Stun and Sleep, but NO POISON
Pretty much this. Any unit who can control every monster like lemon/goldtail who has 50 TU almost guaranteed sleep with low TU damage move which is cresendo moves, novadrake, etc⦠or geartyrant who has a passive any unit after 200 seconds being the battlefield.
The two posts above covered it. The āGeneralā section values a lot of the things which are good against buffed enemies but going against super buffed enemies is a slightly different story. Unfortunately PvE is too diverse to give a list that works for all and breaking it down per event would be so much work. Interferenceās list of things to look for is a great guideline.
I know this would be a big addition, but does anyone think a tier list for secret skills would be worthwhile? Maybe sorted by
Mandatory
Advised
Average
Underwhelming
Worthless
Its already there.Go check out kds every monsters analyzed
Thatās all in this guide: KD's Legendaries/Mythics listed + stats
Iāve written it as a reference thread for all the legendaries and mythics in the game. For each legendary I have a recommendation on the secret skill and for each mythic Iāve also added whether itās worth awakening. In the first post I explain what my notation means, even breaking down extra details you can gather from the mythics.
@Killerdog umm whatās moku doing in D tier for general?
penguinator is in S- tier im scared
Geartyrant is at least A tier in pvp. Almost entirely shuts down slow plays and control, reliable sweeping, and double repulse+stun flash combo
@NMEduck I didnāt really consider how Moku can still be used in the end-game effectively. Itās very useful in a variety of events too. Iāll move it up.
The Penguinator I had high because overwatch + desperate bite with excessive force is not something the AI could deal with well at all in the past. However, youāre totally right how itās something I should change now that piercing is far more common.
Thanks for pointing both of these out!
@SanghelioLord Geartyrant is simply way too slow. Instant double repulse + stun flash is powerful, especially considering it is tanky enough to get a turn quite often. However, past that it offers basically nothing for PvP. In top level PvP nobody would consider playing it. Thereās one guy who loves his Geartyrant + Oakthulhu + Shivadragon FL who has played it for many months but I honestly think itās the rest of his team that does well, not the FL. Is that person you?
ye moku should be ~S tier. I just clutched a battle in hell mode chapter 6 by repeatedly spamming mojimojiha and Iām sure it is even better when the buffs are lower.
Ahhh that"s why I have seen many moku FL this past few days 


TY for the info.
TY too for the info 






Agree, most of the teams have good stun protection, if geartyrant does that with me, he will end up giving my leo a turn and a shield to Jaguar
Well Leogiest High speed retreat and a Lava entrance can give him turn fast but the problem it takes time to get kill with auto death sentence