No. Itâs not true. Itâs a big nerve, itâs now 10 times weaker.
What are you talking about? The Eds got the same treatment as redybug or mapledragon they became crap as hell at least with the first nerf it was still playable but now nothing.
Nophiam is level E it has become cosmic â â â â .
And also dusiscion, centauron, elemenphox, galv and especially Keiser no longer deserve the S+ level
I see you live in the world of extremes.
Whatâs made Motordragon so much worse?
Also, can you explain what difference it makes now that elfin dragons canât target themselves?
A lot. Not being able to target yourself means moves like Bind creates a permenant deadweight on the field, you can not remove yourself when you donât have a damaging move active so your other monster with better entrance to take place, and if only 1 ED on the field, he will just stay there and not do anything. They lost all versatility they had.
I prefer ED post-initial nerf to what CWs are now. At least they were fun to use.
Thatâs literally the point of Bind lol
I know âlolâ. I was just pointing out a weakness now they have previously they didnât.
Also I want to add, Gravity field was a counter to them until the big boss got a turn and when there is no protector but now that they can not target themselves, it acts as a mini-gravity field for them. Not being able to target yourself also means knockback random is A HUGE counter to them if barely any EDs left. There is no reason to ever play EDs unless you are a new player wanting to beat other bad teams which what the players wanted I guess but the tier list should also reflect that.
A true mortor user uses it to lock down the opponent not just to put a few bronzeshells here and there. Its impact has diminished considerably without itself being dead weight , the enemies need almost nothing more.
Ohh a lot. But to understand it you have to dwell on them which you obviously didnât do as well as those who nerfed them. In short, NoĂ«lle has summarized whatâs wrong now not to mention that they are now being completely ridiculed by the gravity field.
Is it still possible to clear Pengborg Strikes back? the monsters are now diff + Bronze shells have deshell
Youâll have to rely on Galliodragons skills and prolong the batlle.
Is there any way you can give feedback and insight without being rude? Iâm trying my best here.
What you wrote about Motordragon doesnât really explain anything except that you want to use Bronzeshells for locks and the setup you like to use doesnât work any more?? It leaves me wondering what setup that is.
My thought was that you can still use each turn to reset the critical moves of the others, but I guess it means that for each ED you have one fewer monster that can do the resetting so if youâve only got 2-3 on the battlefield then thatâs really going to slow down how frequently you can do it and how smoothly they play.
I was looking at them more as a whole, not thinking about how people play them in amongst a couple of non-ED monsters so thatâs probably where I went wrong.
I imagine E.D. Kaiser will run out of the reinforce move much faster now too because the other EDs will rely on it more.
Iâll change their positions when I do the other movements very soon.
Just to add to my above postâŠ
Ironically I met two Elfin Dragon teams today in PvP, both using almost entirely EDs at the front (one had Dusicyon, canât remember the other).
It basically affirmed my belief that they are not changed much if you use all EDs. I couldnât shut down the setup, they easily did the pullbacks and got to attack just like before. However, I do believe that this isnât the case if someone is running them with more non-ED monsters. They will get clunky if you use any more than a single non-ED.
So the question really becomes⊠are they viable without any supporting monster? I think the answer is mostly yes, but theyâre definitely less flexible than before and there isnât much way to improve the setup with clever team building.
Remover becoming solo on Keiser really matters in some scenarios because it takes away its ability to easily pass time. Skipping turn gets around it a lot, but it contributes to the overall deconstruction of the smooth chaining turns the setup used to have.
They destroyed the archetype abd gave 0 compensated for it
When people complain about something being too strong / annoying to play against, the compensation is it getting nerfed
Is it players fault or the test team fault ??
They knew except well the moment they released the monster it was broken but to push sales up and nerf it after a month or two. This pattern must be stopped its not only ED even mythics
Many more monsters get buffed after release than get nerfed, which shows the opposite of what you just said. Suck it up and quit going on about compensation
Letâs skip the compensation yapping now, we all know what you will write for the next 2-3 posts
You got upset and made a whole thread about how unlucky you were image this that your monsters get nerfed to the ground after this bad luck how will you feel.
Balancing the game is correct and am all up for it but the option to keep or sale should always be available if nerfs happen
Iâm still annoyed that airavalon has time freeze⊠Itâs such an unnecessary nerf to his already stupidly slow moveset.
Combined with utopion he could be a good (but not insane) devastator alternating his charge/blast in PvE, since he gets 8x charges per 200tu, it works well against the super buffed enemies. But taking 450tu to execute once makes it useless, and the fact that he needs two moves to pull it off would make it hard to truly abuse theough give turn anyway.
Sadly even 8 charges isnât enough to kill super buffed enemies. Energy blast damage is low. I think each charge will add less than 1000 damage to super buffed enemies.
Sorry im lazy to create a new post 
Wich mythic should i get from the shop and why?
Ankara stealth on general are super easy to counter, ight too moves
Giehretus design is amazing , good passive but ight too moves
Nophiam got hit hard with the nerf hammer but can be great , my collection isnt great
Already have Soral
Already have Iridez wich is terrible btw
