Right! But what she can do without unicera if enemy doesnt have stealth,shield or Protectors? Just spam Multiface strike wich does no damage at all
I would love a speed nerf on her to around 70 and some king of defense boost to compensate
Also shield steal should not awake sleeping monsters like it does
Shes so cute and the only waify i actually like
Exactly! Without Unicera holding her hand, Nikkiâs just out here throwing pillows with Multiface Strike, praying someone has a shield or stealth so she can pretend to matter. No stealth? No protectors? No problem â sheâll just tickle the enemy team for fun.
How to play Nikki - if you donât have Unicera - then she will fit anywhere in the middle of the team - with high speed she comes quick and will always have targets for Kill Steal.
Just ask GP73 how well his various Nikki frontlines performed over the last months as he runs exclusively this type of strategy - early aggression into powerful entrances to seal the win.
I know how to make her work bud , im just saying right now Sheâs not as strong as she once was.
Lots of boosts+ defensive boost passives. The Steal mechanic is very good but it should have less tu on kill steal and shield steal OR make it usable on friends and keep the same tu THAT could be great. Some defense boost would be amazing she is too fragile
Selkette being higher than Asmodia, Rozaliz, Leira, and Cinder is just flat out wrong.
She is bad and extremely bad outside fl without unicera
What i have in mind is two variations.
1- she gains buffs as you have more status this has been discussed before and tu reduction on her steals i would expect them not to pass 5-10 tu honestly
2- combine the steals all into one move and give her other skills
Thanks everyone for the feedback! I should note, I wrote the description before the massive TU reduction to the taunt move and I only changed it slightly after that. So if it reads a bit weirdly, thatâs why. Rozaliz probably compares better to Arachnadiva now.
My main thought is that when youâll want the taunt move the most is when youâre behind and thatâs when the opponent is most likely to kill Rozaliz before she can use it. But perhaps Iâm focusing too much on that scenario and not on things like if youâre ahead or at parity then itâs easier to use the taunt and that nicely protects your next few monsters from getting killed when they enter?
With the best reptile mythics she definitely becomes a lot better because she can tank until her turn. Thereâs only a couple of monsters that help with that though, so I didnât want to bump her up in the tier list purely for that reason.
I was on the fence between A and B, but I donât think itâs a great choice for many teams so picked the lower one. In the teams itâs good for, itâll definitely feel stronger. I definitely plan to adjust the position with time, but I feel itâs still going to be a bit of a coin toss because you canât necessarily BM the monster you need to, as soon as you sacrifice a teammate then you can no longer BM and the enemy which dies is random so that also might not work out well. The defence buff is also conditional. Those things naturally hold it back and surely mean it canât really be in the S tiers.
Nikki + Unicera is great, but beyond that itâs really outclassed compared to alternatives.
To be clear, the F tier for Kumachi is 100% my opinion and I knew it would be controversial. What entrance are you talking about?
Iâve played lots with Adamithia (5* crescendo hand) and the two are very similar with how they tank and deal damage. Itâs cool and starts killing much faster than people expect. However, if you lose the stats buff then itâs much weaker and Kumachi has the same problem of punishing you when it dies (Adamithia gives the enemy a turn, Kumachi revives with her crescendo reset). I came to the conclusion itâs fine but a bit gimmicky because itâs too matchup dependent.
Kumachi is a great candidate for the classic lineup of having a low TU sweeper hidden behind a wall of protectors but that hasnât been a top tier strategy for a while (apart from with CWs).
My general impression is you can make a team thatâs strong enough to dominate weaker players but not one that is truly competitively viable. F tier is probably too harsh but I find myself having to be really harsh in order to put enough mythics in the lower tiers.
Can people show me their Kumachi setups theyâve had success with?
Then why donât u run. Donât spit nonsense. Uni+niki can get 1 kill at max and that also hg,high def,and earth element it canât kill at all. For that cost itâs below average.
Never. The only good thinking Abt her is speed ,if u reduce that she will be useless. One person had given a good buff idea for her. When she is in shield she have piercing stats,in shealth focus and kill has some kind of effect i forgot.
Thats a cool sujestion no gonna lie but do you believe devs can implement such thing? I have my doubs 
Thatâs all about albion and brida that carry your team. Also your mythic spam. Even u donât use niki uni you still gonna win.
Info: Rockoid is way powerful. I won 5/5 using rockoid at eg.
Thatâs the thing with most monsters that are strong: they are strong with each other. Just because you canât build that FL with strong mythic combinations does not negate the fact Nikki/Unicera is a strong FL option for high tier players. It stacks on each making an unbeatable team. Itâs like saying Pandora/Albion is weak just because someone with barely enough mythics are playing the awakened form (even mediocre legendaries like the green lion revive guy) and you win against them easily.
I donât think any mythics should be considered in a vacuum, they should always consider each other which is why I disagree with how KD designing the tierlist. Something like Kasumi should be in high tier and not D tier because obviously she is terrible without Mai and vice versa.
Just play with niki uni and u know. Assuming is always simple. For the cost what they offer is pretty much average. Like for a 1 critical non piercing damage u sacrifice ur 2 mons. He always talks about the weak mons being strong. Have u ever seen him complained about albion?? Infact he was the one for creating unbalanced mythic albion. He might be enjoying with his m.ney but doesnât change the fact that how strong are game broken mythics. Niki uni just fall down due to powercreep and u can see their corresponding tier .
I find it ridiculous when you suggest ideas to buff low tier mythics or suggest counters to problems in the meta he jumps in and and criticizes each one without actually proving a solution or an alternative approach for the buff
Honestly, everything judged in its ideal conditions would make a really wonky tier list and make them all need a huge amount of explanation to understand. It would make positions even more hotly debated too! If everyone had access to all the monsters then it would absolutely make sense, because things would be played in their ideal setup. But thatâs not how the game is designed to be played.
I definitely get where you are coming from but now that more players starting to get more gems, either by investing their own banks or not being as much of a gambler, the more players get all the necessary monsters to build the most optimal teams like the chinese/cuban players and hell even me who was F2P for so long (and now I own 20 mythics 5 of them are non-anniversary limited mythics). I mean look at Prixis, Unicera/Nikki, Bridalith fifth spot, Leira, etc⌠all these monsters have been strong and playable since their release and the more players keep hatching (Im mentioning this to show that overtime people who hatch at the most important times can already build a really strong top tier team that has been terrorising the top of pvp bracket for a while), the tier list will reflect the meta less and less. At that point it wonât be a tier list but instead a new player or F2P guide.
The tier list already shows how to play properly too. The top of the tier list is Yukihime and Astra, yet you expect, reasonably, that the players who will hatch them wonât be using both of those together especially since they love being played mid to endgame. Same with Bastia and Aello, they are in the same tier rightfully or even Prismegasus who is supposed to be played with links and not spammed around rainbow of attributes. We expect to these things to accounted for by the players but is it not also reasonable to expect them to be played at their most optimal or close to? You can always update it when you get something wrong and you take a good amount of time to give your opinion on new releases too so it shouldnât be a bigger problem than it already is.
Itâs true that accounts with a bunch of mythics are growing more common, and Iâve always adjusted over time to that. With some things Iâve been ahead of the curve, putting meta monsters low because they donât play well against mythics or high defence and Iâve received criticism for it.
I take into account synergy and combos but only to a certain degree. If theyâre easily achieved then I can rate the monster in that scenario (e.g. Shikabloom) but if theyâre niche then I only value them a little. Youâve also then got all the aspects of: reliability, matchup dependency, the floor/ceiling, whether itâs outclassed by alternatives, etc. I feel like that ends up consistent with my definition of the 9 tiersâŚ
Kumachi is kind of an example of the D-F where my opinion on it right now is the ceiling is not competitive level so itâs a monster that isnât suited to PvP. I wouldnât be that harsh on it if it was a legendary, but as a mythic if it requires a unique setup and that isnât even good enough then itâs probably not worth it. For a similar reason, F.D. Maeve has dropped down into D tier once flutterdrakes were no longer a competitive team. Kanna and Hu Shin are also down at the bottom for this reason.
Thereâs also this to say about the PvP tier listâŚ
So basically Iâm saying theyâre not terrible because theyâre at the bottom. Sure, some are outclassed or have a specific reason for being down there, but many can perform well in the right circumstances or in the right teams. Youâll probably just have to work harder to make it happen.
Anyway, I wonât ramble more. I do hear your complaints about how you wish certain things were taken into account more/less. Itâs really hard to come up with the perfect system to rank things. Pandora created a new scenario entirely where it plays so differently based on whether you own Boxchomp, a P2W monster! I donât know how to reflect that properly in the tier list.
why is Dameule not in HP-Buff S tier?? I mean her and the ghostless version (after she gets âkilledâ) both get the buff and itâll also increase her survivability thus making a revive (âforgotten girlsâ) more likey
But the pandora at B is a joke. Every time I play against pandora and astra, most of the time they finish my team and very little chance of comeback.
