šŸ† Neo Monsters tier list (see first post) šŸ†

I don’t think you understand me right lol, I already said Mr monsters are definitely one of the best in UC, but you should look at it according to the current meta. The advantages you listed are correct, but when preparing a team, you should think about the minimum disadvantage you will take and the precautions you will take against it. Albion is rarely used, but Carmillette’s usage is not low. Of course, it has an advantage against teams that don’t have them, but it also has a lot of disadvantages. In other words, it will work in half of the matches and not in the other half. You probably compared it to Torto because they are both protect, but this is not a correct match. Torto is weak against payback killers, so they both provide different situations to the team. And placing Horrorclaw in the team is a bit difficult because even if he is not weak against payback killers, if you use another revenge monster on the field, he will take the payback killer on himself and his mr passive will not work. In my opinion, using protect in FL is dangerous, and if you are going to do this, you need to have solid precautions. As I said, of course there will be advantages, but if the number of disadvantages is too high to ignore, this is a problem

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@Killerdog dusi, keiser , balvbi and centauron must go down, they are not s+ in particular dusi which is a good joke

Yeah Dusicyon has fallen off a lot as more monsters have got piercing and stun has becomes less common. I have delayed dropping it because piercing monsters have typically been mythics and so Dusicyon is still good for many players who aren’t at the top of PvP, but now I think there are enough and the meta clearly doesn’t need what it has to offer as much that I should drop it.

Galvbishamon and Centaureon are still brilliant.

Hey KD, what’s your feeling on Zarathul?

For PVP it doesn’t seem super viable, but for PVE I can’t quite decide whether it’s like S- tier or like C tier. His moveset feels very fickle, as though he has 10 different half-of-a-good-combo options, which I suppose is terrific design… But I’m still searching for a reliable method of using him.

There are so many amazing options for building a Union combo with it. It has near-complete immunity, a very high attack stat, and can even clone itself onto allies. Its entrance is perfect for a Mark strategy, whether you’re running Exo, Milgon, or Mantiferno.

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Reminder that he is also sleep immune so there is a chance with lemon/One on one too

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I think he’s most likely medium for PvP and above average for PvE.

Talking PvP, low speed and low defence with no value entrance/revenge is always a risk. The combo stuff all relies on monsters being marked, which is a little clunky to set up especially when your opponent can remove mark. It’s likely going to work mostly as a union sweeper with some niche upside in some teams.

Talking PvE, you should have more time and freedom to actually pull off the combos. I feel it’s essential to do them to make it worth running. Union attack is strong but not reliable enough for anything with a significant buff and, similarly, that’s when it will die like a fly. So you’re probably either doing relatively slow piercing sweeping or, more likely, using some combo with cloning and reviving stuff.

As NoelLemon says, sleep immunity is a combo that’s pretty enticing. It can stay awake to mark and remove teammates, turning your sleeping monsters into extra threats. I’m very skeptical over the time it takes to pull that off and how unreliable sleep control actually is now they’ve continually brought out more counters to it. I mean, there’s no way you’re pulling off a FL OoO combo with this with a straight face if you want to be competitive so it’s going to be mid-game (which I never see anyone experiment with except me) or end-game with Lemon.

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How good is evie in 2nd form? Is she viable to use or is she still powerful

She’s alright, better than many mythics in their second form I think but she’s a bit slow attacking and you can’t get her a defence buff to survive a long time. The 20% slow on enemies is nice but you won’t feel the effect of it too much. If you try to play her competitively, I think you will be disappointed. The moveset is still pretty functional though.

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Ok ok, thanks for the reply!

@Killerdog when can we expect a update in tier list with new mythics and legendaries?

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The new SE cyberoach is so strong lol

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Hello, dose fyrielle has sleep immunity along with rock morph in 2nd form? Thanks!~

Yes

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In PVE. Not in PvP.

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Cloning is way less effective in PVP because your opponent has a brain and can keep track of which is which lol.

I’m going to work on it this weekend. I’m not sure if I’ll complete everything but I should get most of it done. So the update posts will come over the next week or two.

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Slacker :wink:

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Oh

Not really - with multiple copies on the field Corrosive Thrust could be used to very easily sweep enemies with 3-4 hits. Now if you have more than one copy on the field they are almost harmless.