Cant belive astra dident even make top 15 
guess jellyfish dragon wassent all that after all
I made special mention of it at the end. It would be in the top 5
yeah i was to trigger happy in my messing around dident watch it entierly through before posting 
well played sir
Weird how vixenblade is 1st
Which 5* or less monster would you reckon is best to receive an HP boost–
Dreadmoth, Shieldragon, LeBroid, or Triploid?
(Or something else entirely?)
If you had all 4 and could only boost one, which would you choose to get the maximum benefit from?
Dreadmoth is probably the best out of the pnes you mentioned
It’s going to be useful in most situations and you will often find it easily fit im your teams unlike the other three
Sanctoise can be higher in both the lists imo, double sendback can help blindside the enemy so they don’t know what’s coming(or to remove deadweight), no killer weakness, poison immunity+ shield entrance, and lastly full revival of one monster, very useful in both PVE and PVP.(Should be A or B imo)
That moveset isn’t sanctoise.
*sanctaurus
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You get what I’m talking about don’t you?
You raise some very fair points. The problem in my mind is it’s very slow and all the moves are situational. Reviving is good, but if you’re having a dead weight on the battlefield (Sanctaurus) then you better be doing something great with what you’ve revived. I feel like it’s only going to be good in very specific combos.
In PvP I reckon most of the time you’ll just want to sendback itself and something else. I’m sure there are better options for doing that. E.g. a backbite monster.
Have you tried it or do you have any particular setups you reckon it could be good for?
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That’s a fair assessment, his low speed does seem like a setback I hadn’t discussed upon in my comment, but reviving with full health, especially in PvEs(where if you play your moves right you can revive an awakened myth) goes a long way, plus if you boost it you can get any monster 50% revival in next of your line with 136 tu(at the cost of monsters in the end), I use the monsters with monsters than can quickly finsh him off when he’s done reviving like huskedragon, capt. canine etc. plus I position him in a way that double sendback lands tenebris on the field(but tene isn’t present in the preview) so my opponent now has to deal with constant stealths)
In PvE I’m definitely sold on it. I put it in A tier because I think reviving monsters is great. Sanctaurus being high defence and with a shield means you can pretty reliably revive at least one thing. I put it higher than Horrorclaw, which is B tier.
In PvP using it with something to sacrifice it like Huskegon is a good idea. I’m torn because getting a turn in 80s and then solo revival for 110TU means it’s ~200s on the battlefield to revive one thing then remove itself. Reviving a second thing at that point is another 136TU, and all of that is dependent on it lining up nicely to revive something. It just sounds so slow and unreliable to me. That said, double sendback makes it very scary for the opponent if you have entrance monsters behind.
I think you’re probably correct that it’s better than D tier in PvP. That’s too low for the unique stuff it offers. Revival has generally become stronger in PvP too now that so many generically strong mythics are used in the meta (Tortogeist used to be bad but has got better with time for this reason). The one big problem is how low speed it is, so I don’t think it’s a viable option for high level PvP unless you’re using it with Giehretus or Mortilys.
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A mistake. Horrorclaw doesn’t trigger payback killer moves which is what makes him a good uc choice. Especially now we have woolala in every other team.
I don’t recommend using horrorclaw in FL since there is currently Carmillette in many FL in UC. Although some teams rarely have Albion, it can still be used in the mid-endgame. MR monsters are a big factor in UC. (I didn’t read KD’s comments because I don’t care about tier lists and the article is too long) Normally, since Mr is a big factor, it would be at least A tier, but considering the current meta, B tier seems appropriate because of the protect feature.
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Im sorry i have to disagree lol. I honestly feel like horrorclaw has an advantage over most other mirror monsters. Your point about carmilette is totally valid and im not disputing that at all however when you compare it with its closest counterpart tortogiest it has both advantages and disadvantages over it and both will meet the same fate to carmilette lol.
I’ve always been a a believer that hold ground is one of the most important passives in UC (though obviously other advantageous moves are necessary). Horrorclaw is no different. If you have any way of restoring health then it becomes a very good wall where you can choose what monster you wish to steal through health manipulation and well used timing of when you use protect teammates.
He is also very effective to use with atrahesis. Say you have both on the field and carmilette uses her void guardian execute. She will be unable to kill atrahesis in 1 move so he can revive horror and you have a second chance to steal. This is usually the worst case scenario apart from if atra also dies.
In the last UC i lost a bunch of battles to woolala frontlines because i was originally using a death revenge monster in my frontline and she annihilates those. I swapped to horrorclaw and didn’t lose another battle. Horrorclaw is very good for stealing woolalas, medusas, nagandias and ankhoudragons which are often good game changing monsters to steal. Also he grabs a voidress from time to time and then its game over lol. (Its much harder for tort to do this as you have to wait for bloodbath to charge first - sacrificing some of your team in the process).
Another good thing horrorclaw has is decent speed - often faster than other uc monsters. This allows it to get the protect teammates off when you want to most of the time. Tort is more annoying in this sense.
By the way im mentioning tort because he is unarguably one if the best uc monster’s and top 5 UC legendaries with only Aurodragon, Atrahesis, Wraithcaptain and chronotitan being better in my mind. Yet even with that horrorclaw outclasses him in some situations which pop up more often than you might think.
How often @Killerdog updates these lists?
When he feels like it. Its regularish but not after every release.
I plan to make a separate list for super buffed content, where I highlight the best monsters for it. That will be the place where Horrorclaw gets its time to shine!
Roughly every 1-2 months. I do two different types of updates:
- game updates (monster rebalances)
- new releases + general changes
I do each of them roughly every 2-3 months. Exact timing varies because it depends when I have enough free time.
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