Apparently some guy was using this with Leira and Doomgoo last season
Pretty strong
Just not a stand alone monster.
Maybe because he met a player named Herndon who uses this SE with Leira Awakening but honestly a lot of people have difficulty meeting Herndon because of the mid Leira and SE combo but itās more towards Brida Herndon that makes it difficult. Sorry, itās a bit off topic but I think only Herndon is the one. use that se and enter the top 25 or 20 this season
Leira to pass the time I understand, but not the Doomgoo? Also, I guess the setup is Tricertalon with Leira behind then assume your team in front will die so you have a couple of monsters behind that will work well when you face a new set of four enemies?
There was one guy who ran it a bit before poison just to the point 2 monsters could be easily delt with before the death sentence ended and suddenly you were faced with gorgo asmodia scorp and gazer entering at the same time
Might have met that one caus dear god that got me good
Damn I need leira
Yeah something like that
It was basically fast low tu mons afternoon Leira
⦠Then why is he listed in S- tier?
I think you put him in the wrong spot my man.
Many of the best SEs are better than the bottom Legends⦠at least most everything D or lower (for PvE anyway). Beyond that it gets a little murky because the higher attacks are really needed to make a dent against the super-buffed enemies.
So mons like
Blazerider, Blossomight, Captainwhiskers, Dreadmoth, Mapledragon, Scarleguard, Shieldragon, Torrentide, Blazebones, Djinzar, Lordsreign, Marrowdrake⦠frankly even Armadiator.
Theyāre all pretty much better and more useful than the lower tier legends (in some cases just because of the reduced cost, in other cases because they rule.)
For PvP itās different, the playing field is a bit more level power-wise. In this case Iād say most of the S- to S+ tier SE monsters are genuinely more useful than many (not all) of the C and below tier legends. But itās murky. For instance, I would not put Thlug Beckie as being anywhere even remotely close to as useful for PvP than Lionheart or Wolhammer⦠on the other hand Dreadmoth and Shieldragon are absolutely more useful than even many mons in tier B (Tinkerclaus, Flocco, Mulasem, etc).
Itās also important to note that some SEs are higher up on the list because theyāre so darn easy to get, such as Electricheetah or Rosempress. These ones Iād be less inclined to make blanket statements about. Same goes for some of the all-around useful mons like Titanwolf, Ventokaizer and Viridizardon, they have skill sets that arenāt exactly amazing but you can throw them anywhere in the team and have it be useful, so they are extremely useful for newer players.
Youāre looking at the general tier list, not the PvP tier list.
On an unrelated note, Iād like to lobby for Lordstag being moved up to S Tier for PvE, easily one of the most useful SEs I have. The cornered snipe/exile combo means heās nearly guaranteed to take down a few super-buffed enemies on his own, then heal the rest of the team and get rid of himself with Heal All. Heās useful pretty much anywhere, and for some reason it seems as if the AI almost never targets him.
At least equivalently useful as Djinzar.
Thanks, I think I was a little too harsh on Lordstag. Those piercing kills are great
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Struggling a bit to understand the S+ placement for hanzo in general. Assassinate doesnāt do much damage. Does it need auro to be considered S+? Iām sure i must be missing something but not getting it exactly. Or maybe itās SS is very crucial? but iām afraid to work towards unlocking it cuz it might make it vulnerable to killers. One way i can think of is putting 2 rockoids(ideally 3) and raw blood spamming? Iām just a bit lost on the tier list ranking.
Its revenge. Its a monster that when killed kills whatever killed it and replaces it with a useless rock
It can also clone itself
And he enters with stealth making him slightly more annoying to kill giving you enough time to clone
i get that, but then why is nebelronix so low as compared to hanzo? the difference must not be only a rockoid right?
Because its random death revenge you cant manipulate it
And one rock blocks alot of monsters
Its also piercing which if you look at revenge effects i think only 4 or 5 diffrent monsters have 2 of them being awakend mythics which makes really hard to risky to kill
Then its just general moveset alpha strike is the only move it has thats not really worth considering everything else can have a massive impact
Probably Because petrify revenge has piercing and death revenge doesnāt,alongside spawning a rockoid to charge Assassinate,and switch teammates is a useful option for cloning since itās solo
Hanzo also has a Protector SS.
Use clone, then protect skill. Opponent is forced to kill Hanzo rather than wait for a mon w/ a void skill, sacrificing a team member to do so. Rinse and repeat⦠And the stealth entrance helps the new clone pull off both moves.
You can keep the chain going and keep racking up deaths, plus sticking a rock onto the enemy team means you can charge a blood move. (The petrified enemies auto die after 300s, so you canāt just ignore the rock and force them to retain the dead weight).
Anyway, thatās why.
(Afaik the āHanzo strikeā move really only works if youāve got an aurodragon on the team pumping more of them into the rear of the team.)
You really do need the SS to work him, the clone move is a SOLO move which means the original has to die before the next clone can make a new copy. So if you donāt have an ocarino, just wait.
If youāre excited about getting a cloner but donāt want to spend 12 tickets, pick Sanctallion over Nebelronix for sure. It can fully heal itself and stuns the enemy team and shields your entire team. An ace.
Donāt waste on Sanct.