Malwing needs a change

Neo Monsters
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Malwing is just way to op
Double passive and can blow back
I feel like it should be given unmovable
And change blowback so it sends itself and the enemy to a random place in the team

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Nope

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That kind of ruins the point of unmovable. Also he is pure bs. Like stun or sleep, take your pick

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This monsters give the most incredible support in the game, while also is a great sweeper. Its just to much power for a single monster.

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Good point. Now I understand why not

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Use a gravity field monsteršŸ˜‰ jk lol tbh im using malwing + geo and i admit itā€™s probably a bit too strong.

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Question. Do you have this monster on any of your teams or at all

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Just make it so that pullback can only be used on a monster 1x like what they did to repent.

And/or make it so blowback only does 1 thing. KB or step back but not both. A double move SS into a double entrance passive that can be used repeatedly is beyond asinine.

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I have it, I use it, itā€™s broken

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Make blowback send malwing to the back. Itā€™ll remedy the pull back shenanigans with oni and geo in the process.

It has no drawbacks so thisā€™ll give it a risk in using its SS. 16 cost is too little for a free knockback into OP passive.

You could also throw in an unmovable-like passive with blowback being the exception to itā€¦

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You can also give it unmoveable, and make blowback bypass umoveable passives (both it own and the enemyā€™s, but it WONT bypass gravity field)

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@TheGreatest

This is :ok_hand:

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Just make blowback send malting and the enemy to a random spot and itā€™s perfect

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How can you expect the god of rng to go to a random spot with blowback?

If tranquilising sleep is ā€œrandomā€ then surely its blowback placement would be ā€œrandomā€ as well. So it wouldnā€™t be a coincidence that it blowbacks and ends up next in lineā€¦no no no at the back it goesā€¦

Also making malwingā€™s ss completely disregard unmovable is just downright op.

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My malwing never hits converters :frowning:

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Ya. Its like lets take Wraith/sweet entrance passive, and add the stun.

Then weā€™ll give it a double secret skill. A secret skill that enables it to reuse its double passive.

Anybody who doesnā€™t think thats messed up needs to share with me what theyre smoking.

There are so many monsters with no entrance passive or secret skill, and this one gets 2 of each, with the SS basically allowing for a double double entrance passive.

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There arnt alot of unmoveable monsters so who cares. Gravity field will still be a fully counter to it as it should be. The idea is prevent abusing it passive with oni / geo / whatever, and keep blowback

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Just because there isnā€™t a lot doesnā€™t make it acceptable for malwing to break logic. I donā€™t see the need for this unnecessary buff.

Why should malwing be the only mon to move an unmovable mon? Gravity field is available to only 3 limited mons. Hardly a consistent counter.

Chronotitan benefits from unmovable. The passive loses value if it is simply disregarded. I donā€™t see the need to move motor and tinker as well in most situations, but that just might be meā€¦

Keep the consistency. Asking for this is the equivalent of asking for a single attacking move to bypass auto protect plus.

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I feel like as soon as Malwing gets any nerf then everyone will switch to Sobeking and thereā€™ll be just as many complaints.

Malwing is one of the best PvP monsters for sure but itā€™s got slow speed and stun has a large number of counters. Itā€™s not OP or broken in my books.

I think that the ability to pull it back multiple times to abuse the entrance passive is a bit cruel. So I think the most appropriate change would be to make all monsters only possible to target with pull back / sendback moves ONCE. This would include all variants of the skills like Blowback and Soul Summon. That should help avoid anything broken.

I know not everyone has the monsters to counter certain other ones and Malwing does have a top notch moveset but, in general, anything with slower speed is much easier to counter or deal with.

P.S. Iā€™m glad they changed the SS cost to 16. That was a good step to bringing it into balance.

P.P.S. Has anyone thought about using Centaureon in a link storm team with pull back? Not quite viable yet but imagine getting multiple easy stunning entrances + assisted thunder. As time goes on there will be more and more abusable entrances.

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Iā€™ve faced enough teams having leo, light lion and other three stun convertors. Stun entrance is dead unless it is tranquilising.