This game has to make money or it will cease to exist. as long as people are willing to spend money for the current odds from a business point of view it is simply bad business to change the odds… nothing more.
You are way to black and white in this. You can’t see the other side of the coin and that’s why there’s no point for me to even discuss further.
Also cutting out a part of a sentence pulls it completely out of context instead of reading my entire post. It is a very obvious technique to make a sentence sound far worse than it actually is. Plus you took away absolutely nothing from what I wrote so how about you go back and read again and come with a more logical argument instead of just crying about a crying kid comment
See an example below of someone that actually read the full post and gave a proper response.
For you the discussion might be over but I’m leaving it open for people to voice their opinion on the matter otherwise we might see yet another thread being created. I will lock the thread only if people jump out of bounds.
I did not cut the context of the post, in fact, I highlighted it in the quote. So quoting the entirety of it yet again would do little more but hurt readability. That aside, how does that context change your blanket insult, as in, your poor choice of words. Fortunately you were in ‘player’ mode where you can be a condescending prick, so no problem. Hold on, is this the part where I add a winky smiley face?
This game has to make money or it will cease to exist. as long as people are willing to spend money for the current odds from a business point of view it is simply bad business to change the odds… nothing more.
You are way to black and white in this. You can’t see the other side of the coin and that’s why there’s no point for me to even discuss further.
Well good you justify bad customer practices as long as it makes money. Game design comes second, after all. The irony of stating that I see things as black and white while then stating “the game has to make money or it will cease to exist” is hopefully not lost on you. But then, pricks aren’t well known for introspection so the odds of that happening are even lower than legendary draw rates of Neo Monsters.
Since I’ve reached the point where I’m exchanging insults with a moderator and staff communication isn’t any good either, I’ll take my leave from the forums.
“Bad customer practices”… so you think cause you complain about the chance it has to increase? sounds childish to me? it’s not an insult… it’s the way I see it… and judging from your over-aggressive spam of insults in your posts just now that only adds validity to my argument while you’ve got absolutely none.
Speaking of “Bad Customer practices” involved around a chance event you are by no means obliged to spend any money on is laughable at best. You knew the odds in advance, you decided to spend risking you don’t get anything. Dont cry about it later like a little kid that did not get the toy he wanted. It is precisely what you’re doing. and when someone points it out you add some insults in the mix to cover it up.
It would simply be bad business practice to increase odds when people are willing to spend and given the amount of legends and new players that pop up that I’m seeing I’m pretty sure they have absolutely no reason to change the odds from a business PoV which is the only thing that should be looked at in such a case because Hey. it is their only relevant source of income and it is generating enough revenue based on their earnings. if their earnings would drop below target it is the only point where they would look at increasing the odds as an incentive to spend. As long as this is not neccesary you can do the math.
Seriously tho… Grow up kid.
My bad then… although I’d rather not reply with a joke to someone that has the guts to admit he did something wrong in the face of a community. People might actually get the wrong idea and seriously request compensation.
I’m simply relaying what is being said… words don’t hurt me ;) I went in this topic as a regular player so I won’t do any mod-related things to it. Let the other Mods handle it and lock if they feel the need. It would be the third topic locked on the case though. I’d rather just leave it open so people can honestly express their opinions. be it insults or otherwise but it seems people need to vent about the deletion of the other topic yesterday so closing this topic might just open another one.
I think it looks bad for business when a Moderator is treating other members of this community like babies and making himself look like an Alpha on this forum.
It’s actually quite annoying when someone gives his opinion on something and when you don’t agree you usually downgrade them to dust until they don’t want to post anymore.
I’m sure this helps the community…The title of this post is Forum integrity
You’re maybe right if not for several factors. For one the fact I said I went into this post as a player of this game and mind you, moderator on a forum doesn’t mean I can’t form my own opinion in discussions.
also grieving and straight up insults have nothing to do with “Sharing an opinion” it is childish behavior you can jump up and down turn left and right and arrive at the same conclusion.
Moreover I am in no way related to the company that produces this game, I’m an invested player that likes to see this game going in a certain direction and as a part of it I am moderator on this forum as a player. If I was on the payroll with them I would have been called back a long time ago.
And I’ll be straight up honest with you I have stopped spending on this game personally because I don’t like the odds. But that’s me. One person in the face of over 10000 people. I mean nothing as this single entity. And I would not start complaining to drive up those odds just because I think they are too low. When spending will drop the company will respond in turn.
It’s basic business 1-on-1 and if you are supposed to survive in a very competitive market you will move on a demand basis.
Well well welll looks all very strange to me, but I also remember that the chance for super epics was better last time. 1 out of 11 spins Rest epics is just a little too normal
Anyway they probably don’t care so all the whining won’t get us anywhere. If you want to complain, stop playing or spending
at this point they changed the chances 100 % to the right ones, since I doubt that anything that happend yesterday was on purpose.
I also counted the SE´s and E which left nearly no doubts that something must have gone wrong, sitting at 26 % and 70 % (pretty much nailing special egg rates) at the sample size those numbers are not within the margin of error of sample sizes any longer. Only screenshots and videos have been around 300 eggs in total. Most of them before I even opened the thread so there was no mob mentality going on and aside of that no1 cares for SE´s so there are 0 emotions involved.
Maybe it´s just me but if there´s numbers vs someones word who has a big financial interest into you trusting him my money will always sit on the numbers.
Error margin is inversely proportional to sample size aka tiny sample=huge error margin. Meaning that drawing a conclusion from a sample with a massive error margin isn’t going to get you anywhere realistically
you are overestimating the margin of error by quite abit (just go google it) we are talking here of 12 % on the super epics and 14 % on the epics, while the 3 % on the legendaries might have just been bad luck,
logic simply denies that both epics and superepics are so far from the expected number.
Admittedly I’m not doing the exact maths behind it but you see where I’m coming from here.
Plus remember that the input isn’t completely unbiased, it’s averaged more towards people getting worse luck and thus venting their frustrations on the forums.
Ok someone run a paired T-test on these then. I’m on the move and can’t check right now, but that would settle the debate once and for all. Margin of error is also relative to magnitude of expected value. So actually the off-value of legendaries is more significant here.
And yea, input bias due to self-reporting will always be a confounding in these type of stats you’ll never be able to fully account for. So even p <0.05 is still taken with a grain of salt.
Edit: if no one runs the test, I will come back a few hours later tonight and run it.
