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Welcome to the forum.

Every monster that was released is still available, either in an egg, in the shop or in the friend chest. The hardest monsters to get are probably the friend chest exclusive monsters (they were usually reward monsters before).

New monsters that are not featured are given as event rewards and later been put into eggs, chests or the shop.

This complies to the gatcha laws in many countries.

Exclusive content are probably only icons that are not available to new players, like anniversary icons or such content. There is also no way of obtaining all icons, often you have to choose one icon of two or three, so nobody has all icons. This exclusive content is not relevant for the gameplay itself.

Every banner has a list where you can see which monsters are obtainable in that banner and how many % chance of getting them. The featured monsters are just higher percentage. Older monsters will probably be featured less often once they are put into the standard pool.

Other eggs, like rare gem or gold egg, also got a list and featured only monsters are usually getting updated into that list once a year around the anniversary.

Some shop monsters are stated as ‘shop only’, they can only be purchased there. Other monsters like Ankudragon are featured in banner before and now they are only available on welcome banner or in the shop. Monsters like the moth were reward monsters before and now probably shop only too.

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At the top left, you can see the text ‘list of monsters’.

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Inside that list, you can see which monsters are obtainable and the percentage. You can see, that the featured monsters are higher chance to get.

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Woah, thanks for the sharp response there! I honestly wasn’t expecting receive a response this quickly. :slight_smile:

And you delivered quite a professional and insightful response, and so for sure, thanks for that. I’m not well aquainted with this game yet, or even gacha games in general, and so I didn’t even consider some of this stuff, such as with it also having to conform to these supposed gacha laws. Which I guess does make sense to me, as gachas can probably associated as gambling. I admit that I don’t totally understand why you say that that relates to the gacha laws though.

You say that every monster is still available, as well. And then saying that that’s in to be in conpliance with the gacha laws, or something like that. I’m paraphrasing here. As though that’s obvious. But to me, it could’ve just been either way, as there definitely are games in which not all the unique things that you fight with (be it towers, hereos, monsters, etc) aren’t available in later releases of the game. It’s interesting to learn how this game is actually different from that. But well, maybe many gacha games are like that, and I’m just ignorant of that.

Also… I really had no idea that you couod check these banners. That seriously reminds of some Roblox tower defense games that I used to be. When I was in the egg section, I could only see “info” in the top left there, and supposed could only the monsters that in that egg were feature. Was I missing something, then?

I don’t know if there are other devices in which can house Neo Monsters, but just in case it is important, I’m using the mobile version of Neo Monsters. I don’t if the game is different depending on the type of phone in which it’s on though. So if I need to say to particular type of phone in which I’m playing Neo Monsters on, like if that matters towards this for some reason, then please let me know.

Sorry for the heavy message, haha.
I’ve only been playing Neo Monsters casually for a little while now, by the way, and so that information there is most certainly valuable. I know I already said this, but thanks again for that. I honestly don’t understand why I couldn’t find that information else where. :face_with_diagonal_mouth:

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Oh wait, I see what you mean now, by “list of monsters.” I didn’t even think that was interactable with. Thanks.

That was such an enigma to me, initially… when it really didn’t need to be.

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@EBO for mod !!

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Damn, I wanted to find the name of the first form of this certain legendary monster I had found myself interested in, so I that I could try to find it in the banners. As I came to assume that that’s probably the name in which is shown for each monsters. And that monster’s index number I found to be 2425, and keep in mind that this is its ultra-evolved form. But… there doesn’t even appear to be a page for that! And when it comes to the page just prior to that, index 2301-2400, it had most of its slots hollow… I didn’t know it was still so incomplete…

Why does this have to be so unreasonably complicated… ;-;

Maybe it’s just wishful thinking, and selfish of me to suggest this, but I genuinely thought that it would be at least a little more plausible to get information on this. But damn did I get striked down by this reality check.

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Your monsterdex will grow, the longer you play. You can always check monsters in the dex which you’ve seen before. If it got a ?, then you haven’t met it yet in the game.

The banner will always state the monsters initial form, because this is what you actually will get if you hatch it.

The monsterdex has 2550 entries at the moment, but not all monsters are yet released.

I don’t think the device you use makes much of a difference, I’m running a Neo Monsters account on an Android 4 device.

The Neo Monsters UI seems a bit old fashioned and overloaded at first, but you’ll begin to love the game quickly, because of the great monster artworks, the helpful people in this forum and on Discord, the complex gameplay and the connection between the developers and the players, because unlike in other games, the developers actually listen and interact with the players, as long as it doesn’t interfere with the payment schematic. Quite some monsters are actually designed by the userbase. Of course there are many unresolved issues too, but I believe everybody is doing their best.

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Alright then…
thats really cool.
Thanks for the insight there. :slight_smile:

Yeah, I totally was thinking that it might only show the names of the initial forms, precisely because that is what you actually get. Glad to see you confirm that.

I have 1 more question though… I’m trying to look for if you can get G.F Gloria from 1 of those eggs. And probably will try looking elsewhere for it after that. But if I’ve only encountered the ultra-evolved form, and if its index is not shown in the Neo Monsters wiki, then how can I possibly get the name of the previous forms? :face_with_diagonal_mouth:

All that I get if I search up G.F Gloria’s evolution line, or anything like that, was that discussion thread regarding her when she was first released. But I don’t think anybody is mentioning her previous forms. And if I try heading into the images of that search result, and try to look for an image of her evolution line, it still only shows it from the reference of G.F Gloria. And thereform only showing the name of that form…

I just don’t want to constantly ask someone about where I can get certain monsters, or whatnot. If there’s a better place in which I can find such information, such as Discord, for instance, then I implore you to tell me about it. If you don’t mind. :slight_smile:

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Well, let’s just see, if I’ll happen to remain with it. If I’ll like it enough for me to. I feel like that’s just your bias poking out, and represents your own perception of the game, and I don’t really think you should be forcing that onto others. I’d rather just be guided some distance, such as being informed of what the environment is like, and then just experience it myself. :slight_smile:

It’s most certainly not an immpeccable game, of course. It certainly does have at least some flaws. 1 aspect of the game in which I dislike thus far, is how excruciatingly tedious it can be to get gems. But, as I further advance through the game, there might come to be much more effective ways in which to gather gems. It’s probably still just a shallow perception of the game, and I just don’t know enough yet.

But still, at the same time, it could also come to still be something I dislike, even after experiencing those more effective approaches to gem grinding. And that could greatly diminish the motivation in which I have for the game. You don’t know if I will love the game, as that will be according to many factors, and we’ll just have to see if I end up liking it adequately.

There’s other aspect in which I sort of dislike, as well, I would say. I can be quite OCDish in nature, you see, or something like that, and I also tend to be quite keen when to comes to the various minute details within the art. And I can overall be quite sensitive. And there have been some monsters I’ve seen that have a detail here and there that I just naturally have an aversion to, and that inevitably would effect a drop in my fondness of it. I won’t name specifics right now, but just know that there definitely have been monsters like that thus far, in which I held at least a slight aversion to because of 1 or 2 certain details in its game design.

Also… why are there so many sexualized mythic monsters. I’ve seen many of those as well. And they just feel wrong to be there. :face_with_diagonal_mouth:

And those are monsters that, even if I’m fond of what they can do, and even if I find their design particularly appealing to me, I’ll probably just avoid. Because I just don’t really want that playstyle to be represented by an anime character with such exposed skin, and I don’t want to have to look at it all the time!

All I’m saying is that, I probably care much more about artistic design than you think. :sweat_smile:

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Of course, everybody has his own opinion and feeling about a game.

As long as you have fun you stay, and if not, just play another game. I’m also playing several games.

The waifu discussion is as old as they were introduced, some love them, some hate them. For me, I love the art of most monsters, no matter if monster or waifu. That’s why my edits are very comprehensive.

G.F. Glorias first form is called Purplepixie, she was released in December 2022, so you’ll probably only find her on featured banners.

The best way to gather gems is Botan Doujis fortune shrine, save 500 gems and you’ll get a lot for free.

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Oh yeah, I’ve heard of this shrine event. Apparently it comes every couple weeks. I’ve also heard of this 500 gem prerequisite… damn. I also saw somewhere that it requires someone a month per 100 gems, but I don’t know how advanced into the game that person is, or if that gem gain is tantamount to the higher tiers of gem gain. And if it is… that might take me even longer than 5 months to achieve, to then just essentially be back at 0 again, and I’ll likely not be playing that long. I also don’t really want to spend any money on the game. :face_with_diagonal_mouth:

But well, if that gain is from that shrine event that you speak of, then it might only require me to hop on every couple weeks. I don’t know how difficult it is each time though. If I ever even get to 500 gems, that is…

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Admittedly, I do like the art design of some of these waifus. And also like some of their playstyles, such as Kanna’s and that 1 girl that can resurrect the enemies as allies and also heal on entry (not particularly their art designs), for instance.

I don’t remember that monster’s name, haha. (Edit; it was Brynhildr).

That friend monster feature honestly seems like an excellent feature for trying out different monsters, without having to go through the trouble of obtaining them yourself, or having a spend a single dime. :slight_smile:

But also… you’ve yet to inform me of how I can search for the information on them myself, such as their names and what they can do, without having to have encountered them. :face_with_diagonal_mouth:

Is it not possibke for me to find that on newer monsters, unless I were to ask somebody about it?

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Oh wait, I had just realized, you said that you get a lot for free from the Botan Douijis fortune shrine. So you would just simply hop on and collect, whenever it comes up?

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Yeah that’s how it works. And generally if we play all events we can do 200 gems a month. So 2 months should be enough to do shrine. So 500 gems should be new 0.

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On my 2nd account I took 46 days to reach 500 gems that time, its really not that hard, even if you just started fresh.

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Oh yeah?
So that’s possible. Thanks for for telling me, there.

Which events do you think I should do, with gems in mind? As gems, I would say, should predominantly be my priority after all. At the stage at which I’m at anyway. As I’ll most certainly need those for monsters that I’ll want to get. I don’t really care about the monsters that are in the meta right now, as in, in the upper echelons of quality or versatility, I just sort of want to get monsters in which have playstyles that I happen to like. But my desire for them might waver if they have an art style that I find to be unsavory. But probably not any mythics yet. Most of the mythics, I’ve heard, are only better than the legendaries once they get to their awakened form, and you apparently need several of the same mythic for their awakened form. Which, as of right now, just kind of seems out of reach for me… :sweat_smile:

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You need 489 for shrine.

You can get from:
Main Story,
Daily Mission,
Daily PvP Mission,
Live Event,
Trainers Dojo,
Story Mission,
Super Challenge Battle,
Biweekly Mission,
‘Free Gems’ page,
Achievement section,
Shrine,
Login.

Ahh I miss the grinding excitement.

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This reply here was prewriten, by the way. I didn’t know that there was a daily reply limit on this forum website. At least, I think that’s what it was, anyway.

I just realized, what that fourth active skill from Brynhildr (that was the second waifu I was talking about up there) actually does is that it revives the last monster that had died. Not exclusively an enemy monster. I got a little confused there… sorry about that.

Also, I didn’t even know about this reply limit, haha. I think I might be pumping out replies here a little too excessively. ;-;

…I’m sorry for sending in so many replies on here. It’s just sort of in my nature, I suppose.

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This reply here was prewriten, by the way. I didn’t know that there was a daily reply limit on this forum website. At least, I think that’s what it was, anyway. But also with some edits to this as well.

Thanks for the insight, there. Yeah, I’ve heard somewhere already that once you eventually get to 500 gems, that you would want to treat that as your new 0. So that you would be able to keep that particular improvement in gem gain.

Makes sense to me. :slight_smile:

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Eh. Why do you say that it is 489 gems that you are required to keep on deck, instead of 500, like what I’ve seen had been said?

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The daily reply limit is just for new users, to help minimise the ability for spam bots to post lots. I think it’s for the first week.

Chief_Ape said 489 gems because you’re guaranteed to get 11 gems from the two smaller shrines (5 → 6-10, 50 → 60-100 = 1+10 minimum).

I was too busy yesterday to reply to any of your posts, but it looked like the other guys covered it very well! Is there anything left unanswered or you’re still needing to know?

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