I see, good to know
Well at least devs tried lol
he could work quite well mid game to deal with the common chromera he’s just 34 speed I think so he’s incredibly slow plus with timber I rarely run out of rocks
Canis getting his speed boosted would be great, but there’s one teeny problem- Robin. Canis may possibly be the easiest assassinate target in the whole game, he doesn’t even have Hold ground to defend himself with. Canis shutting down cannib combos? Add robin, canis problems go poof. So canis should be 94 speed at least, so he can at least do his business before he gets butchered, or even stealth himself to shut robin down. Hold Ground might help too.
You want to nerf retribution strategy also?
nerf everything, get everything balanced pls, (never gunna happen 
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If you guys wants everything nerfed then nerf the game by deleting it
Think about other games. There are so many cheap or usual monsters that are really op and you can’t do anything about that. As soon as you nerf someone there will be another monster that will become op and then people will ask to nerf him. So what’s the point on nerfing them all. Just make new monsters (possibly super epics) that can give you multiple strategies to make. That’s how you can balance it. What I was thinking is maybe release 10 monsters in preview and give the people the chance to test them by giving them on “loan” for maybe a week to see who’s good and who’s bad. Give a feedback here so Devs can know who to release.
Nerfing something and having something take it place is fine and it keeps the game refresh. Instead of playing the excat same strategy over and over.
Since these monsters werent free a compensation system could be implemented i suggested before opening a shop were you can sell nerfed monsters and replace them by a monster of your choice.
My idea was
Create a store with all the legendries monsters in the game.
Normal monsters sell for orange gems
Limited time monsters sell for red gems
Legendary potions are returned.
You can only sell nerfed monsters and replace them. This system allows devs to have more control over the game balance and us as users dont suffer from nerfs as we will be able to replace the monster with a monster of our choice.
Nerfing monsters is only needed when there is no way to counter a strategy. Deathgazer and zibkong are the only times it has been needed. Better to buff other monsters or release counters.
Motor dragon can be countered it’s just boring to have to run the same teams over and over.
Bronzeshells should be given stun immunity or some other passive that prevents stun from being abused. Motor stays useful this way.
These topics keep coming up because people hate being stunned or slept though.
There is a reason players keep leaving the game and people being stunned to 800 plus seconds or sleep locked for entire games in pvp probably causes a lot of people to quite. Some people come to the forum and complain but a lot probably just quite. Saying everything is fine and nothing should be changed is ignoring that the game has been fighting to stay alive for months and some serious changes need to be made. It’s great that you guys love the game but without any competition it is fare less enjoyable.
Theres so many free games on the app store. Expand your gaming guys! 
I don’t know, I’ve always felt like generally the paid games seem to offer more in the way of content than the free ones. Which is exactly how I ended up finding this game in the first place.
People like lochi don’t wanna nerf any monsters because they have every single monster in the game. My old legends don’t compare to these limited ones. Pay to win in pvp
weak argument but funny
And yes this game to a extent is pay to win in a game with iap a player gets boost by paying not to say a f2p can’t catch up it will just take longer and more determination
Counters I’m sure will be released like there always has been such as TT being countered with cyclo etc. Recently. Game diversity is difficult when only certain monsters offer unique passive or moves. Yeah sure u can play with differnt monsters to everyone else but don’t mean they will be effective against top 20 players which is the most annoying thing. I think the best way to create diversity sometimes is to create more elements and or maybe another type of meta other than sleep, poison and stun like Pokemon.
Only way motor should be nerfed is it’s shells that should be stun immunity as people have suggested.
Another way which is abit farfetched is creating numerous monsters that prevent passives being activated when they enter the field.
Another farfetched idea is creating different forms of the same monster. So when in its final form you can evolve it to whatever form is available for that monster which in turn may affect it’s moveset. E.g. imagine a dark Leo…
It basically comes down to the fact that the most dominant strategies don’t have many counters.
Cannibalize fronts have no direct counter. You just have to outplay them.
Motor has no direct counter. You just have to outplay him.
If we had a monster that just shut down motor like chromera shuts down bane then we would see less of him.
Really the problem is that motor has double repulse to go with it.
Make a superepic that has the following moveset:
Backstab(50 sec)
Retribution
Gigablaze all
Bloodthirst
Passive: knockback immunity all. Prevents monsters from being pushed back into your team.
Stun immune
There you go, a monster that is viable in high level play that shuts down motordragon.
I would also say that the reason everyone is so agitated is because the same teams have been in the meta for far too long. Motordragon and Ziberius were very early legendaries and have been in the meta for 8+ months. They are boring now. Really boring.
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Deathwarg isn’t stun immune and is way too slow.
Yeah, there’s simply no way that 100 per shell is going to suffice. And again, the enemy’s not likely to just sit around while warg takes out the trash. Honestly though, I’ve never had a huge problem with repulse or KBN themselves, it’s only when unwanted entrance gets involved that I draw the line.
It’s so funny when some people here blame this game as P2W, but no one wants to join F2P clan :lol: . Of course these people will just say “I just want everyone to be fair in this game bla bla bla” instead of “I do not have that monster, please nerf it for my own interest”. Stop acting for your own interest please. Or if you want equality too much, just go to N**** K**** for your own sake.
In addition, if you think you suffer too much from Motordragon, go get it. The current egg is featuring Motordragon. Spending your gem is a better choice rather than complaining and crying.
Next time, I won’t be surprised if there is a thread like “Please nerf P2W players”.
Wowza, is that an aegis???
yeah because more motor dragons in the meta will fix the issue, just how everyone having TT fixed that issue…
More motors just means the game will be decided by who’s Motor enters first.
The game will literally be who’s Motor enters the field first so they can stun lock their opponent.
Strategy and creating teams make this game fun and the current meta prevents any diversity in teams. This is not a p2w f2p issue.
I have 60 legends including motor, so I am not looking out for my own interest. The game will be a lot less fun if everybody quits because a few people are afraid of losing their “strategies”.
I would say not wanting Motor to be changed because you have him is looking after your own interest just as much as wanting him nerfed because you do not have him.