when you want your win rate reach 80 to 95.you always have to give up something.
I have to stand with MementoMori on this one… I saw a fair percentage of what I would call “AP spam” last ranked PvP. It was mostly from the usual AP spam players, but the percentage was higher than Cani AoE. Both teams are extremely annoying to face, even if AP spam has been nerfed and given counters.
I’m not going to talk about whether they’re OP or not. However, I think if annoying teams are commonly used then it’s worth considering taking some action to make them less common (but still viable). That said… I’ve definitely had enough of the endless “nerf XXX” chat, especially to do with Cani AoE and AP spam.
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Developers will tend to sell new monster instead of nerf xxx.The carp dragon is a good example recently.
Who are the usual AP spam players? I didn’t really use it last season. @Mr.X retired. I doubt @squinty1880 used it. I’m pretty sure @keets stopped using his AP spam strategy.
Perhaps a few from DLGZ clan used it.
Maybe some newer players?
Anyway makes me happy to hear that some are keeping the weak strategy alive.
I faced some AP spam last season, but maybe I didn’t pay enough attention because I got my Sukenshi in the FL to destroy Bloom.
AP spam is annoying offcourse. That’s what makes it fun to use. But I would say if they removed the RNG from targeting multiple AP’s on the field it won’t be annoying.
The more relevant question isn’t if it’s annoying but whether it’s OP.
So with that in mind, may I ask:
did you manage to win the majority of those matches?
Nah, just use the counters.
I will go Head and say at least 13 of the 20 ranked matches I played today were AP Spam… I thought my version of AP Spam was bad, lol. Oh no, these guys are rockin Dusic, Auro, AP rock and Canishogun to being Goldoids, then the following mon is Dolphreeze with 2 more, all being shielded and revived to no end thanks to Goldoid regenerate and Auro making it close to utterly ridiculous.
No it was veterans, a fairly decent number of people in the top 50 were using AP spam. Dusicyon was EVERYWHERE and often paired with Aurodragon or with a good 2-3 protectors in the first few slots. Common protectors used were Sanctistag, Meatoid, Musashoid, Diamonoid and then a few running Bomboid (sometimes with Floccu too) and other ones we sometimes see.
I can’t remember my win rate against them but my team was built to counter Auro and Dusicyon so it’s not really a fair representation. I went with almost full poison, using OoO to set it up at the beginning and take control.
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It’s not OP though. I do remember those Duscy and Auro ones. Combining AP spam with Auro dragon was my favorite version of AP spam back in the day. I would have Bundam waiting in the backline with a whole heap of revived protectors to support him.
Auto posion wrecked it though. I honestly think there are more than enough counters to AP spam.
Nerf the long requested targeting RNG.
Don’t allow Goldoids to be revived as often.
That is more than enough.
Again it’s a high risk strategy…
Bloom could use a nerf regardless, so why not?
I’m seeing quite a lot of it rn too. Especially with the rockoid variants
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They could make bloom have raw moves and remove protector rng
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Its crazy how people still have issues with ap after all those nerfs.
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You don’t play you don’t know how annoying it is
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At least 40% of the ppl I’ve been facing have been using bloom+ap spam/dusi with at least two ap and usually diamondoids. I think regardless of whether or not the devs decide to change bloom or dusi, they should at least remove the rng when targeting protectors.
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I play I know how it is. It’s got a lot of counters. Mr X is correct… It’s amazing to still see complaints after all these nerfs.
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Team protect rock spam is very passive, rock has almost no damage but must rely on dusi and bloom to attack, if the bloom is stun then only dusi remains. Neft work is not required .This is a funny battle between Ap bloom spam users and those who don’t. Do you guys keep trying to hit a meta that has been hit so much to upset the game ???
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Yes they are. It’s unbelievable. They will not stop until AP spam is completely impossible as a strategy. They are not interested in balance. Balance will mean that the strat is still viable. Same for Cani. It’s unhealthy to wipeout entire strategies. They don’t want it to be viable even under the current strict and pathetic conditions needed to make it kinda work.
I’ve been pretty much wrecking all AP spammers. I’m not currently using it but would love to pull it out from time to time for a laugh. It’s incredibly risky and needs to be buffed not nerfed.
They always expect to neft what they don’t have and buff what they have. Most of the buffs or neft in the forum are like that
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Buffed? I thought you wanted the targeting RNG for Protector Killer to be null and void.
“Null and void” don’t we have mons in this game that go by those names? 
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