Bring back the old pvp system

I’m sure any of the long term players to this game will remember back when pvp use to be based on the point system where if you won the match you won points and if you lost the game you lost points and the rankings was based on highest points.

When this new system came out it was quite controversial and a lot of the old players wanted it to go back to the old way but with the constant disconnects it was annoying when you was on a big streak and some ■■■■ disconnected you costing you your streak.

The servers now are a lot better and I have seen no issues so far with pvp so good job devs. But I now feel we need the old system back. Pvp is meant to be competitive and I know that I’m not alone when I now just treat pvp as any other event where as before I use to go for leaderboards. I don’t really concentrate now and make a lot of mistakes because it doesn’t really matter. Where as before I use to think about every move and outcome as I wanted to be rank 1.

I Would like to here what everyone’s opinion on this is but to me, now pvp is so much more stable we should go back to the old system and have it back to being competitive not who has played the most

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I agree the only reason I semi didn’t mind the new system was due to people forcing dc now that we can have stable Pvp I think the old system is welcomed back. Also we should have perm Pvp with no point loss and the occasional competive Pvp with point loss

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Also agree on this because the old pvp point system is the real way to make a top rank. If you don’t have the possibility to lose points, it’s just a grinding sistem. There’s no competition to reach top places.

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Permanent pvp could be like this system which is basically what hunter island was. The events should be the old system

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Definitely. I would also like to see a count of your total matches played, next to your wins, or a win ratio. That would make it much more competitive.

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I agree. I don’t feel a sense of accomplishment winning matches or get bothered throwing away matches. I never liked the new system which is why i quited pvp. Grinding points doesn’t make you the greatest :smirk:.

Also make UC harder. It’s becoming boring.

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Totally agree. Grind pvp isn’t fun at all. I miss the old pvp which has been gone for almost (i think) a year now

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This is the truest post I’ve ever seen @Saul1417

I miss being able to play only 20 matches and still finish top 50.

I like the current one. In the past, had to grind 13 wins. Now I can stop at 5 wins.

Ye but it’s not a real pvp. It’s just a grind event like UC. Who has the best team wins no matte what. In the old pvp even if you had a mediocre team you could have tried to play and try to win. Here if you see there is a little chance you quit anyway cuz it doesn’t matter

Agreed, bring the old system back to its glory days.
More competitive will be much more fun just to grind wins & vp!!

A cool thing would be to show both points and vp leaderboards. In the first one you see who’s really in top lead and in the second who got the more points and based on you position you get rewards. Obviously in points leaderboard you get better rewards

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stable what?
this pvp still have some bugs like skip bug
3 out of 12 games i always get auto skip bug

Only bug I’ve seen is tridrakhan killing tort and his passive didn’t work, possible that tri left him with like 1hp and then the poison tick killed him but I didn’t see the poison tick.

Agree 100% old PvP points system was much better. Also would be cool to display win streaks and a proper win loss ratio

Can’t remember the last time I replied to a post but a more competitive change of pvp, e.g. bringing back the old system would be much appreciated. Additional stats regarding loses and wins would prove an great addition in my book as well. Make it happen devs!

I do see the potential in the VP system because of how the people in higher PvP brackets get more VP per win. This makes the top, let’s say, 100 positions far more accessible to the people in the top bracket of PvP and no weaker players can get in there without grinding like crazy.

However, the big issue is that within a bracket (and probably one either side) the difference in VP is not gained by skill but instead by using all your tickets. This is what people do in UC and it’s all about how high your “win rate” is for whether you can place in the top spots. However, PvP is more of a grind to keep on top of the tickets and without leaderboard rewards people won’t do it. Hence, the top, say, 100 leaderboard positions only display people who have played lots of PvP that event and are in the higher brackets.

What they COULD do is keep the current system but lower the refresh rate of tickets (more like UC) and add leaderboard rewards. Then it would work just like UC. They could also boost the VP bonus from winning streaks and add an extra bonus if you beat anyone in the top leaderboard positions (e.g. top 50 = +XXVP and top 10 = +XXVP). This would create a fair leaderboard situation but with the drawback of the number of matches we can do being more limited (will people dislike this?).

Going back to the old system would work brilliantly for leaderboards but not so much for the rewards (only wins?). However, the really big issue is that people will need to be matched by battle points… which messes things up again in the way the Devs don’t want. It was previously too easy for strong players to purposefully lose matches and keep battle points low to get easy wins from weak opponents. This is NOT a good system to have. The PvP brackets have made PvP a great experience for a lot more people and I personally do not think it’s worth reverting just for leaderboards.

Making battle points work…
Perhaps what they could do is have two types of points we get. So we get VP as we currently do and we get matched based on our PvP bracket. Then we have our “leaderboard points” which are granted based on the leaderboard points of the person we face but are also multiplied by a factor based on the PvP bracket we’re in. Hence, people in lower brackets will be averaging less leaderboard points than people in higher brackets.

Did anyone read this?

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I would make both VP leaderboard and old PvP leaderboard. The first one is a grinding system where you get normal rewards for the amount of time you play basically, the second one is more competitive and if you finish in a top lead you get final rewards.

Hey guys,

Thank you for the suggestions. Just so you know, we do have a lot of plans for PvP now that we are confident that in most cases it is running well. One of these plans is to bring back the ranking rewards, however what form this will be in exactly we currently do not have any concrete plans, but it should happen soon!

Please look forward to it! :slight_smile:

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Good to here, right now there isn’t any competitiveness in pvp as it’s just a grind where as before the old point system made people play for leaderboards when if you hit number 1 it was because you did the best not played the most which is how a leaderboard should be

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