Seems like the biggest reason people have for buffing ankou is that he basically only gets 3 kills max. HOWEVER, ankou has one thing that you simply can’t match with any other sweeper: consistency. Delugazar and Chromera are capable of picking up like 8 kills to be sure, but consider how often they don’t. They’re both very easy to kill, it’s not uncommon for them to simply die before they ever do anything significant, also they can be stunned. Another problem they face is having a shortage of targets and becoming useless. Well let me tell you, ankou has no such problem. If there’s a protector, knock it down; if there’s no protector, then you’re free to place death sentence on anything you want, finding the most ideal way to mess the opponent up.
You see, ankou isn’t good because he can devour entire teams in one stroke; he’s good because he can provide a handsome net value of 2-3 kills in nearly every single battle he enters. He has to fear sleep and knock back of course, but those are problems that basically every other sweeper has to deal with too. He’s not a powerful choice, rather he’s a safe choice. One that I very much plan to utilize next pvp.
Consistency I would say isn’t actually guaranteed. HG exists on an incredible number of monsters, and while he can get that one kill, the other two aren’t guaranteed due to this reason. Not to forget shiva, and shields(Dusicyon too).
He always gets 3 Chances to kill something, but not necessarily 3 kills. Only 1 is guaranteed, with chances for others. Which puts him in the 1 for 1 useless trade category with nebelronix.
Yeah I don’t think I would boast consistency on him. He HAS to be front line. He HAS to die from attack. He HAS to have something stall that 100 death sentence, not to mention pull back and escapes. He moves so far back in the initial queue of the battle that anything can happen before he gets a turn. And what are your other monsters supposed to do, sit around and wait for him? Front lines often don’t last 100 seconds in most people’s setups. So the death sentence is wasted. His current state is anything but consistent, it’s a complete gamble hoping someone kills him or they have a protector out without hold ground (very rare in front line).
I never said his value was guaranteed, all I said is that he makes an impact much more consistently than other sweepers. And shiva and dusicyon are only two monsters in the whole meta, besides, tons of other monsters can be shut down by shiva. It’s not exclusively ankou’s problem.
He requires some setup, but not the entire team. All he needs is the front and a little bit of queue to be shadow so he can DS, and he’s good to go. Link isn’t necessary after that since he’ll have bloodcrave and eternal revenge.
100 death sentence is just not the same as a 320 death sentence. It’s WAY more immediate, so your enemy has to choose whether to kill ankou or take a hit and allow him to start sweeping. That’s not even very much time at all; Bunkerbeast takes 130 seconds to get going, and he’s doing totally fine.
Also, he doesn’t HAVE to get killed. He can claim a few enemies at the beginning and just expire, having successfully contributed to his team. That sounds like a good deal to me.
So, if he is consistent, but doesn’t guarantee me value, then why should I use him over something like solblaze, where he can last indefinitely until the enemy kills it, at which point it gives massive control over the fight?
Sol also takes about the same amount of time to set up, doesn’t require link, is consistent, but DOES guarantee me value. So why should I use ankou over him?
False. Botanic loads bunker too you know. Besides it has sleep immunity so can have a lot more easier time getting that 130 second going if you pair one on one (also instant reload). Anchor is just trash, i haven’t tried it and Im not gonna because that’s how underwhelming anchor is.
Maybe we should talk about monsters that actually need buffs majorly instead of a monster that came out 2 days ago, hasn’t been tested in pvp and was the monster everyone thought would be the best out of the 2 limited? Talk about jumping the gun.
Well if you’re someone who spent a bunch of gems to get him and he’s not viable then I think it’s fair to bring it up to the devs. I’m sure they didn’t intend him to be this weak and handicappped. Anyone who has him and has used him anywhere in game can see the minor issues that will make a huge difference.
I spent a bunch of gems wanting him and didn’t get him, his moveset was available to see before he came out so If people decided to roll on a 50/50 on 6 packs they knew the possibility and about 80% of the line chat (me included) wanted him when they was first revealed over the owl yet now all of a sudden he needs a buff.
Because theorycraft isn’t perfect. We can see something one way, and get excited about it, but then when we actually get to experiment with it it has a different effect then the one we anticipated. That’s the issue here.
Yes, what he said. I’d be surprised if anyone speculating about him early realized how fast he would actually die off in comparison to when he enters the field. I’ll admit personally, that’s not something that came across my mind when I was imagining a roll for him.
Except he hasn’t even seen pvp yet, so nobody’s entirely certain how he’s going to turn out. Saul’s right, everyone’s being a little overly preemptive right now.