⏬ Which monsters need a Nerf?

@Dev_VKC this second level legendary is untouched as you nerfed other second level legendaries. This monster still has dual slayerbane that too with union excessive so sweep opponents quickly even without ultra evolving

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Are you high as well? I was saying that in response to Lemon saying she is a part of fast frontlines while in fact she makes the USER OF HER to use 3 slower monsters WITH her, not saying anything about the enemy teams.

All of you should maybe hatch for her, awaken, play her for a whole year and then say ■■■■ like that, claiming she is the main issue.

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I wanted to do this as i got her to +6 on her first run around

But then i relised that like 90% of everything i do is high speed and scrapped the thought lol

Ahh, you discovered the magical insight! She should almost always be used with a slow FL if you want to fermata.

Honestly, I’m so confused why anyone would bother bringing up Nyx as a problem with regards to high speed FLs. If anything she should be helping deal with the problem! She encourages slow FLs for both the user and the opponent. I mean, unless you’re playing a fast FL yourself then Nyx does very little to you.

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I agree, scaling it based on the monsters’ speed is better design. My examples were just random ideas for what kind of thing I’d like to see.

On that note, I think Giehretus had the right idea but just had the wrong numbers. I wish rather than being 2x speed stat it was 30 + 1x speed stat. That way it’s basically inverting the speed of monsters, not pushing them up to ridiculous numbers.

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Gieh is very unhealthy both for high speed monsters and those tanky slow ones. Stuff like Bastia, Strawbaba, Jasmine enter as if they were 99% speed while it gives you a massive control over the incoming enemies.

I think you are missing the point. Nyx Fermata is a controlling skill that can control the reset of the game and can not be overwritten. Getting feemata off on 2-3 monsters is almost a guaranteed win

On the other hand you have Giehretus who is usually paired with nyx to bring slow tanky controlling monsters such as sakura momo strawbaba etc at 90+ speed completely bypassing the purpose of slowing down the fast monsters and furthermore punishing any fast monster and destroying any come back potential

The only way to beat this is either counter nyx through megalo or join the festa

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I don’t think Nyx is necessarily a problem right now, it’s just that she doesn’t do the job she is supposed to do properly because her design is bad. Now everyone tries to outspeed her or simply ignore her existence and build a fast FL anyway since she is not very common, but Fermata is too OP as it is now. It needs to be reworked. As I said before, if you are running monsters with over 50%, you might as well run all 99%. Fermata should only hit monster that are super fast, 70% and over. That way there is a point in actually using monsters with speeds lower than that.
50% of the teams I face are running Scarle and Megalo. The FLs are faster than ever every time the devs try and counter it.

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Yup, that’s why I think 30 + 1x speed will help a lot because the low speed stuff won’t be quite as fast as it currently is. By removing catapult from the moveset they made the monster more niche and generally weaker so it’s kind of fine as it is now, but I think that change to the passive would’ve made it work nicely with catapult and what they were hoping to achieve.

Fermata doesn’t guarantee anything. However, hitting 2-3 enemies is an ideal scenario and what it’s built to counter so if it greatly increases your chances of winning the match that’s exactly what it was built to do. I fail to see the issue. Additionally, the topic being discussed is “high speed FLs are too common” and Nyx is trying to directly counter that plus practically force any Nyx user to run a slow FL… so I think you’re the one missing the point??

I don’t disagree with any of your perspective but I hope it’s clear to everyone that any tweaks to Nyx/fermata is a different topic than “let’s deal with FL speed inflation”. The only reason to bring her up in that topic is to say that she’s failing to help as much as she was designed to help (as you’re doing now :slight_smile: ).

Guys lancerat SS is the dumbest move ever I hope they nerf it tomorrow before ranked

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I think that nyx shoul be nerf ,May your seconds be reduced to 85%

@Dev_VKC I think lowering Nyx’s seconds would be ideal, or at least his fermata can be dispelled after a certain amount of time.

I’m against nerfing nyx , I hope a lot will get her when she will be back and will be more common , I’m tired from seeing 4 monsters with ,90% speed and more in FL

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Vixenblade & feralfencer

No need explain :joy:

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Eonarx needs to be nerfed. 100tus restriction from him entering the battlefield. (SS)

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That’s even worse than normal TT

All of you act like eonarx doesn’t give team turn to enemy team too at 10 tu , even if you have good sweepers you can’t get rid of them all so it’s a double eddged weapon

We all have taken that into consideration, and the appropriate nerf would be 100 seconds restriction from entering the battlefield.

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Then waiting 100 tu for double team turn ??? You will kill that monster to the ground !!! Dead !!! , I will better use a team turn monster that will give only my team turn

Who is we?

Fixed it for you