⏬ Which monsters need a Nerf?

Neo Monsters
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Only if you have it on before it dies.

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Everyone has it on

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Bridalith entrance is So powerful, litteraly broken with some assistances, and you can keep spamming her entrances , people don’t even care about that raw shield breaker , they don’t even use that move and use her with protectors , making it soooo hard to reach her , even true hit can’t kill it , I won’t say change anything in the moves but I really think she should shield everyone except herself , just as gazer don’t accelerate himself anymore , kaerokenshi also shouldn’t shield himself , because some link water are Soo agressive (plus he has dual give turn )

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Nah, she is unique and fun. It makes you actually build with shieldbreakers and piercing mons so the whole team is built around her, which is fresh and not boring.

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I think the main problem with Bridalith is her second form having the pushback and shield all as well for a cost of 11, that should definitely change.

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As for a nerf, Diamonoid needs to be looked into again. The HP boost is making it too tanky and with auto protect+ for a cost of 4 is just not fair.

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That makes 2nd form tiers 1 , and really good but at least she can’t rebirth , awakened form designed for that , but people pairing her with protectors making her so hard to reach , in some games she keep rebirth 5-6 times especially with zomboid not dying and coming back with her shielding him

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@Dev_VKC It is time to adress those piercing moves on monsters with high boosts. Why does Zephyramus have 170tu Double Counterslash if you can kill two targets with 110 tu Thunderseal without meeting any target conditions.

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  1. Perhaps they did design “double counterslash” for PvE I am sure thunderseal and dreambreaker deal less damage compare to double counterslash.

  2. If somehow your opponent only have 1 SE . But must kill shadow monster.

  3. Just random move for gimmick. So He Will have 4 piercing move , and 3 of them dual target.

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How do you know that? Did we get a statement from Devs when Zephyramus was released explaing that they DO NOT want players to use thunderseal and dreamender to one-shot when used with 5 SEs?

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I think he meant that what’s the point of having double counterslash at 170tu if you call kill two targets at 110tu even if they don’t have weaknesses against Thunder seal or Dream Ender. The damage needs to be low if there are no weaknesses to those moves, they went over the top with that boost.

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Nah . Without all these movements are guaranteed one shots, but with targets the double counter slash is more powerful, up to 40k damage. It’s just an abuse, no need to look for unnecessary reasons for this kind of thing. Zeph and appolo should be repaired for Harle it’s completely understandable

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I just answer coltraz question the function of double counterslash on zephyramus. But I get your point its basically abuse. its even more powerful then infernicorn.

Thunderseal and dream ender need 3 low star to ohko myth (no crit). (4,6k -5k damage)
Double Counterslash only need 2 low star to ohko myth (no crit).
And “maybe” he only need 1 low star to deal damage like bundam with Void powerslash.

Actually I don’t have this monster ,just from experience meet the user. But I am sure double counterslash only need 2 low star to deal that damage. :sweat_smile:

Low star= (SE or lower):sweat_smile:

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Exactly this, it’s fine and makes sense.

Also, note that the “4.6k - 5k” damage doesn’t even guarantee kill monsters and especially not HP boosted ones. If anything, this person who is running 3 SEs to make Zephyramus strong and then fails to kill either target with the move is going to feel super frustrated. I feel more sorry for them and the risk they have to take than I do for anyone on the receiving end that has their unrestricted team facing off against SEs.

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Can anyone please check iff vixenblade with 0 kills can one shot katmander full hp with bloodthirst?
Iff so it needs a buff still not strong enough

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vixen can almost one shot mythics with 0 kill bt katt is elm weak he has no chance

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Dang it . Vixen has it all :dizzy_face: thanks buddy

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It kinda depends tho if she has her piercing that bt gonna hit hard no matter the kills

If she dont have piercing (played with protectors/beasts then she just a avrage monster

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It does about 2400 damage, so with type advantage does 3600 which is just enough to kill Katt but it’s a bit of a coin toss

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Thanks for the info :wink: