We need skins, or call the game NeoPornstars

@Dev_VKC @Dev_BRD

It’s absolutely clear from the recent mythic discussion thread that the game has gone way too far with some of the artwork. Charydbia is absolutely disgusting and Bridalith, from a few months ago, already looked like hentai. This is NOT what most of the people are here to play the game for. The battle system and monster collection is incredible to play, I love this game far more than any mobile game I’ve encountered and I think I speak for many of us here with that. I want to stay playing the game for many years to come, but for that to be possible we must keep people playing and spending money. If we keep getting more art like this, a large number of players are going to be pushed away. Even if the sales numbers don’t reflect that, it should be evident from the community reaction that many players are really displeased with the artwork and a solution to appease them business sense.

The way I see it, there are two solutions:

  1. A line is drawn for what is “too far”. Mythics can be sexualised, but not beyond this point.

  2. We implement a proper “skin” system into the game.

Drawing the line (option 1)

Personally, I doubt this can be done successfully and I do not trust ZigZaGame to abide to it properly, given the artwork we’ve seen so far. However, if they’re open to this idea then I hope it can be done sensibly. It’s clear from the fact all the players are still here after years of waifu that we have some tolerance to the art. Most people who talk to me about it are reasonable and say they don’t mind some cool looking waifu who show a bit of skin, they just don’t want them almost naked.

For example, here are two which are both “sexy looking waifu” that the neo monsters players quite like because Kirina has a cool pose with the bow and Apollonis has a nice display of the flared gown and sun thing floating behind. We could have the occasional mythic that’s a bit more sexualised than these, but if the majority are like this and with some artistic flair then that’s an ideal compromise for all players I think.

Apollonis imageKirina image

Skin system (option 2)

The concept here is something monetizable that adds more to the game without any negative by letting people have it both ways. It obviously requires more effort with coding and with additional artwork being created, but that’s why it’s got to be monetizable!

Here’s the idea I came up with:

  • Skins are made only for mythics.
  • Skins are bought in the exchange shop for “skin tickets” and can be bought for any monster that’s released (not just ones you own).
  • Skin tickets are obtained as rewards from some events, but the main place you get them is from buying gems (each bundle comes with a different number of them).
  • When you equip a skin, it applies to all enemies that you meet in the game too (it literally replaces the artwork with the equipped skin).
    • The only exception is PvP, where you see the artwork that the player has equipped (so people can show off how they like to have their monsters).
    • In PvP, a monster with non-default skin will have a special symbol on it to make it clear to the opponent it’s an altered skin.
    • Perhaps add a toggle in the options to have PvP opponents always have their monsters appear with default skin (if it’s a big problem for people to identify them).
  • Obviously, skins will offer either non-waifu variants of the waifu monsters or at least offer a non-sexualised version.

A mostly paid-only customisation feature is something we often see in games. It doesn’t affect gameplay and people can use it to either customise monsters they own or remove particular artworks they don’t want to see in the game. If free players could get, say, roughly 2 skin alterations a year then they could still remove the absolute worst of the waifu but if they want to remove more then they’ve got to pay.

If skins lead to a lot of gem sales then I have no doubt you could continue to add more skin variants for existing mythics so there are multiple options. For example, similar art but in a different pose (Dragulus roaring and bearing his claws?).


I hope these ideas sound reasonable. As it stands, my teams are being filled more and more with waifu and it’s really putting a downer on my enjoyment of the game.

To everyone who’s read through this, definitely share your thoughts on the ideas and if you have skin ideas for monsters then let us know or show it!

P.S. @Dev_VKC Give me a Fiona skin as a snow leopard and I’ll open my wallet before you can blink.

EDIT:
It was pointed out below that I forgot to add…
Even if neither solution above is possible then I, and others, feel it’s really important Charybdia’s artwork (and Bridalith too?) gets altered. What is in the game right now is too inappropriate. I mean, people have to censor them in YouTube videos to avoid breaking rules!

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I never thought you would be so bold at this matter, Killerdog.

I too, was a little scared after trying the new monsters and decided to take a deep breath before opening them again…

I agree with the skin parts, but the thing is…if Charybdia’s design stays like that…more people will complain as some people couldn’t stand seeing them and decided to leave Neo Monsters…

Maybe a re-design for her main design before going to her skin variants.
(Please let the skins only be cosmetic and not come with any stats bonuses or else everything in the PvP would be a little too chaotic…)

Bridalith, Bastia,

and especially…the last resort…Charybdia…

I haven’t seen anyone talk about Satomi’s design that much.
Her design might not be too revealing, but it’s still gorgeous.

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@squinty1880 they should make it just for you to have a reason to spend after you reach a 100% mythics awakened soon.

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This is such a great idea since this will make them more money but watch them just make more hentai skins for older/monster mythics instead…

I hope they’ll get a better design instead of that…
I wish a positive outcome for this idea…

I like the idea, but the split open vagina should not be in the game, with or without the skin. That’s the frist step. Unless they will start making penises for male humanoids as well.

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That’s the point of my previous post after Killerdog…although…I have not seen any of…male mythic before…

Not gonna support the paid skin thing .
They will purposely release sexual monsters n sell the skin . Not a good suggestion.

They should simply increase their moral and not release p0rno.

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Well, I was thinking about the skin variations that are not NSFW…

Maybe make the skin less pay to get…
I would like to see the skin variations of Excaliburdragon.

On this topic I’ve always been one of the boldest and loudest about how terrible it is for the game. Most of that was years ago so I’m not surprised if people don’t know about it.

Yes, this is one of the points I was trying to make that I wasn’t super clear about. I think Charybdia is a monster art that NEEDS to be acted on. Either with an alternative skin through the skin system I recommended above or they change the artwork outright. It, and Bridalith, are too far and need changing in some way.

I 100% expect this and I’m totally fine with it. None of us have to get those so it’ll just be for people who want them.

Thanks also for mentioning this. I didn’t add it properly into my original post. I’ll edit to add it now.

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I might be biased because I love her skillset and use her a lot, but Nyx is also a good example of a decent balance between sexy and pretty. Not too much revealing, keeping the fairy theme.

I agree that Kirina is propably the best example, tasteful, while still keeping the overall theme and a bit of sexy outfit on top of it.

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I agree with this 100%. Not only will the devs make this a complete money making scheme, but also it will be even worse for teh f2p players (like me). Most of those will include people who are still in school. These are the people who will actually have the biggest problems with these designs. Like these are some 18+ content!!

I think there was 1 right? But yeah, too many female mythics.

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Bastia artwork also needs to be reworked.
Aoi,Hazuki are just eww

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Hatts of kd. :saluting_face::saluting_face::saluting_face::saluting_face:

I tbh feel that majorie is crossing the line too

No

A quick question though…

Have the devs even commented on this topic? Well apart from one of them liking charybdia’s design

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I really hope they don’t answer

Now this crazys mf can change all myths

…Actually they can change most of the humanoid mythics…
I am quite sure most wont be that disheartened 'cause even monsters like kirina and all just are within the realms of a normal waifu

Now hold up listen for a sec

What if. And listen to this. We make all the horny stuff pay walled forcing loki to pay a fortune to unlock his boobs

Wile everyone else enjoy nice and friendly designs :relieved:

Edit: afcourse 18+ only so he has to wait a year

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