UC is making me quit playing

[Codex21]

hg - > low hp stuff - > monster with high TU or slept -> prime target (from high - > low chances)

[Zardecil]

No, surprisingly, it doesn’t take the worst target all the time.

[HellHound_live]

^^This really explains a lot.

[RAF_Raven]

i suggest you most rank up as far us you can. to become your monster stronger
and the technique to get top to UC. im not sure of this but effective
just add lvl 3 or 4 always dont add 20 lvl fast. because more battle you win more battle enemy points you gain of course more win more score and more chance to be on top…

@rctuga

UC iis pathetic… Iff you like it probably you full of legendarys
Im in level 63 not a single legendary till now and only 3useful super epics i use lots of stun bombers and timestrikers and cant even pass level 50 because some monsters take 2 sometimes 3 TS to be killed its not fare…this even only good for people with legends for midle palyers like me its almost impossible get to top 3000 and got a new monster etc…my best was top 2700 now im 3000+ the game should help midle players won new monsters too not only big players…cus they already have ight rated monsters…developers should make it easyer or some pelople like me will lost interess on that event…

[HellHound_live]

@RAF_Raven

i suggest you most rank up as far us you can. to become your monster stronger
and the technique to get top to UC. im not sure of this but effective
just add lvl 3 or 4 always dont add 20 lvl fast. because more battle you win more battle enemy points you gain of course more win more score and more chance to be on top…

Oh! That’s the trick , thank you very much for telling me
Now I would surely make it to top and so will you!lol

Anyway , welcome to forum as well as game, feel free to ask anyone here anything you want and ofc everyone will be happy to help.

[RAF_Raven]

haha tnx for welcoming me acheron yes im new be here
uc is like a ic that all haha
the difference is the reward haha

[Hidan1337]

@HellHound\_live

First of all I would like to thank you for giving a reply so detailed.
About questioning it was my way of replying to his post, third seeing a problem from different angle never solves the problem.
Beating first gatekeeper without legendary, this is what picked my interest it would be both fun and knowledgeable to see that. But that doesn’t changes anything! My point since start has been getting even ‘a chance’ of making it to last fight , and until we even dont get that chance, it would be unfair by all means.

‘Even take down the first gatekeeper’ , actually our friend keb already said this in his words and ‘Requiring 3 legendary to beat the challenge’ , sir, you actually are just proving me right and about ‘It being fair’ is just your opinion .
Bottom line is even if you said you can beat second gatekeeper without any legendaries I wouldn’t have doubted but my opinion still wont change, I know no single adjustment can change this neither can make it fair but it still is most rewarding and most unfair. And please dont call it ‘a event’ , currently is the most rewarding event and deserves better than that.

And what about completing level 200 and stopping us from complaining? Man the challenge doesn’t end at 200 and that is my whole point, 5 gems dont make that much difference as 30-35 does.

I could go on and continue this argument, but I respect you so I won’t continue in this thread or even not ever post anything about it/anything in general thread, but remember I still think your speech here just process my point ‘those with sleep would always support it’ right.

And last but not the least, the same thing i have said before also, Chill man this is just a game and I was only speaking my mind and I apologise if I sounded rude by any means and thanks again for trying to help
 

You added no value to the argument there other than saying you cannot beat them all. Basically you want everyone to be able to obtain 35 gems for free while there’s plenty of opportunities in the game to obtain free gems already? 

Moreover I bet there’s way more people that could make it past the final gatekeeper if they just had the know how. The distribution / power division looks extremely skewed cause not everyone has a good mind that’s smart enough to devise something that can work with the monsters they got. (even people that have goldtail and polareon).

That makes it look like only a handful of 10-30 people can make it which is probably a very small amount of the total number that actually has the means to pass the final gatekeeper. And its not plausible to argue about whether something is fair or unfair where there’s a huge random factor involved (alright human intelligence is not random but for the sake of argument it can be seen as random in this example since each person entering the sample size has a random given level of intelligence). I am not saying you’re a part of that group but because of this it is difficult to draw any conclusion about the fairness of this particular event.

I however think that all other events in the game can be completed by pretty much anyone and all those together plus the free gems they hand out every now and then is more than enough for even a F2P player to obtain several good monsters to  be reasonably competitive in PvP given they have a good understanding of how to team build and decent decision making skills in battle.

[Codex21]

@Glenn\_Martens

You added no value to the argument there other than saying you cannot beat them all. Basically you want everyone to be able to obtain 35 gems for free while there’s plenty of opportunities in the game to obtain free gems already? 

Moreover I bet there’s way more people that could make it past the final gatekeeper if they just had the know how. The distribution / power division looks extremely skewed cause not everyone has a good mind that’s smart enough to devise something that can work with the monsters they got. (even people that have goldtail and polareon).

That makes it look like only a handful of 10-30 people can make it which is probably a very small amount of the total number that actually has the means to pass the final gatekeeper. And its not plausible to argue about whether something is fair or unfair where there’s a huge random factor involved (alright human intelligence is not random but for the sake of argument it can be seen as random in this example since each person entering the sample size has a random given level of intelligence). I am not saying you’re a part of that group but because of this it is difficult to draw any conclusion about the fairness of this particular event.

I however think that all other events in the game can be completed by pretty much anyone and all those together plus the free gems they hand out every now and then is more than enough for even a F2P player to obtain several good monsters to  be reasonably competitive in PvP given they have a good understanding of how to team build and decent decision making skills in battle.

so he was right all along it´s unfair that not everyone is equally smart/skilled!

all jokes aside I´m fairly convinced he´s trying to troll.

[HellHound_live]

@Glenn\_Martens

You added no value to the argument there other than saying you cannot beat them all. Basically you want everyone to be able to obtain 35 gems for free while there’s plenty of opportunities in the game to obtain free gems already?

Moreover I bet there’s way more people that could make it past the final gatekeeper if they just had the know how. The distribution / power division looks extremely skewed cause not everyone has a good mind that’s smart enough to devise something that can work with the monsters they got. (even people that have goldtail and polareon).

That makes it look like only a handful of 10-30 people can make it which is probably a very small amount of the total number that actually has the means to pass the final gatekeeper. And its not plausible to argue about whether something is fair or unfair where there’s a huge random factor involved (alright human intelligence is not random but for the sake of argument it can be seen as random in this example since each person entering the sample size has a random given level of intelligence). I am not saying you’re a part of that group but because of this it is difficult to draw any conclusion about the fairness of this particular event.

I however think that all other events in the game can be completed by pretty much anyone and all those together plus the free gems they hand out every now and then is more than enough for even a F2P player to obtain several good monsters to be reasonably competitive in PvP given they have a good understanding of how to team build and decent decision making skills in battle.

There are lot of things I would like to say but I won’t go back on my word which was to not argue with one of the oldest and most helpful player in the game .

My account when it was less than 45 days old made it to top 50 in PvP(even though I lost the very next match then) , I know my account is not any close as good as you neither is my knowledge in the game but I wouldn’t go that far sir

But seriously man “I bet there’s way more people that could make it past the final gatekeeper if they just had the know how. The distribution / power division looks extremely skewed cause not everyone has a good mind that’s smart enough to devise something that can work with the monsters they got”
this point really caught my attention, now sir hidan please make a team without sleep legend/emerald or death sentence/revenge/match monsters which will make it to last gatekeeper assuming you are as smart as you say(and I know you are )
Thank you again for understanding me and going easy on me this time, made me wanna respect you even more Sir :), good luck

[HellHound_live]

@Codex21

saw he was right all along it´s unfair that not everyone is equally smart/skilled!
all jokes aside I´m fairly convinced he´s trying to troll.

Haha finally someone got me!
Well, I play this game just for fun and if a event unfairly takes that away then I will have that particular event’s fanboys pay (as long as I dont disrespect anyone, specially those who have been around for a while)
But I do admit I was atleast more than a little bit upset and still am.

When i skip with Galvbane it chooses him ALL the time. If i give turn to puffoxin/Rhyno, puffoxin/rhyno kills the one that just gave turn. If Puffoxin and Rhynobrawl are poisoned they kill themselves. And if for some reason puffoxin hits rhyno, Rhyno hits puff back.

If happens to me all the time.

So I guess no more giving turn to death roulette anymore

[Mr.X]

@Glenn\_Martens

You added no value to the argument there other than saying you cannot beat them all. Basically you want everyone to be able to obtain 35 gems for free while there’s plenty of opportunities in the game to obtain free gems already?

Moreover I bet there’s way more people that could make it past the final gatekeeper if they just had the know how. The distribution / power division looks extremely skewed cause not everyone has a good mind that’s smart enough to devise something that can work with the monsters they got. (even people that have goldtail and polareon).

That makes it look like only a handful of 10-30 people can make it which is probably a very small amount of the total number that actually has the means to pass the final gatekeeper. And its not plausible to argue about whether something is fair or unfair where there’s a huge random factor involved (alright human intelligence is not random but for the sake of argument it can be seen as random in this example since each person entering the sample size has a random given level of intelligence). I am not saying you’re a part of that group but because of this it is difficult to draw any conclusion about the fairness of this particular event.

I however think that all other events in the game can be completed by pretty much anyone and all those together plus the free gems they hand out every now and then is more than enough for even a F2P player to obtain several good monsters to be reasonably competitive in PvP given they have a good understanding of how to team build and decent decision making skills in battle.

anyone with half a brain can reach final gatekeeper with the right legendaries. putting monsters to sleep and skipping untill death sentence triggers or deathmark takes alot of skill.

[HellHound_live]

@Mr.X

anyone with half a brain can reach final gatekeeper with the right legendaries.

+1 on that

[Doc_Brankijam]

@Mr.X

anyone with half a brain can reach final gatekeeper with the right legendaries. putting monsters to sleep and skipping untill death sentence triggers or deathmark takes alot of skill.

You never did it yourself, dont you? If you do it the way you just described, you wont win a single match, even with all the right legendaries

[Mr.X]

@Doc\_Brankijam

You never did it yourself, dont you? If you do it the way you just described, you wont win a single match, even with all the right legendaries

hopefully one day i learn how to skip and spam sleep and deathmark

[Doc_Brankijam]

@Mr.X

hopefully one day i learn how to skip and spam sleep and deathmark

Hopefully, but if you really plan to skip a lot you will get nowhere in UC

[Mr.X]

@Doc\_Brankijam

Hopefully, but if you really plan to skip a lot you will get nowhere in UC

you forgot the part were i also said spam sleep

[monsterana]

@Mr.X

you forgot the part were i also said spam sleep

it’s better to sleep and reset and sleep again compared to skip. A sudden wake up usually means game over.

[tjain]

It’s obviously a good thing to reward players with good strategies.  It’s also a good idea to reward those with larger monster pools - otherwise there would be no incentive to spend.

Short of PVP (which is still in testing), the UC is currently the best challenge to achieve this.  It combines good monster requirements with sound strategy.  Almost anyone can win the other events. For that reason, I think it does currently deserve to have the best rewards vs other events.

I do agree that it’s a shame it’s currently limited to owning a small subset of legends (I really doubt there’s more than more than 4 or 5 in the top 50 who don’t use sleep legends), and that’s coming from the standpoint of someone that does own and use them.  But I also think this is very difficult to fix, and personally can’t think of any ideas for other PVE events that could achieve this at the moment (I accept I’m not particularly creative).

I also think the Devs are trying to improve it - they’ve brought in the Bane gatekeepers which have to make you think more beyond sleep, and now we have monsters like deathgazer and icefang who make sleep a little more difficult.

[Doc_Brankijam]

@monsterana

it’s better to sleep and reset and sleep again compared to skip. A sudden wake up usually means game over.

But to figure that out you really need to have set up a sleep lock by yourself - not just being good at talking about things you actually never did

[Supah_vegetto]

BLC, i discused with hidan some months ago about this and i realized he is right, maybe with emerald its easier but its still really hard maybe someone else will explain why but i wont, im too lazy