in UC its probably even more viable since stun protection is minimal.
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Pair with Deus X
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Me who finish 4th and 3rd in UC while lockingš
āLetās make Aetheron, but legendary, and unlimited, and totally abusiveable in any pve eventā
@Dev_VKC change looting charge to be a secret skill
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I still think the problem is tokens not removing themselves correctly or even having the possibility to remove themselves. Looting would be very hard to abuse if you canāt token lock with unkillable tokens (rockoid, moogong, ying and yang) or just AI playing it wrong (vineye)
Every time they would introduce something that takes ton of time to abuse to be broken they would have to nerf that. Why not just remove the strat that allows it 100% of the time without fail?
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Yeah tokens are the issue.
The AI should probably be improved to remove them too
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i would suggest just making it that looting charge canāt be used if she is already charged. that would force her to attack and break the lock.
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The only thing going for Chimunka is the skill looting charge. If thats taken away the monster is just an awful Burnsalot.Like said above nerfing those tokens instead of nerfing an interesting combo enabler move is what should be done imo.
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Fix ai of vineyes like it used to be
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There is more urgent things to do in pvp , sure that move is broken but hard go abuse in pvp while we have a lot of things that need attention first in pvp , @Dev_VKC and the first thing is lowering demontoid speed to avoid 5k attack all from the first turn of novadrake for exemple , lowering demotoid speed will at least give him a first turn without 5k attack
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stop trying to kill off 90% of new players in the game kaby. also the only thing that makes demontoad useable is its speed coupled with enrage. you would destroy another perfectly fine monster if you tweaked it.
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Again coming in with the bad takesā¦ I guarantee you, at high level PvP Toad Nova spam isnāt going to get you anywhere.
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Actually I was talking with @Mr_Lokiiii about how we both faced well over a dozen nova enrage teams last ranked lol. They were simply free wins for us myst users, but Iām pretty sure quite a few of them made it into the top 100 and maybe even top 50 because of how slower it demolishes plenty of weaker teams.
While there are certainly strategies like myst AP spam, carmilla/maeve, and unlimited time token strats that need to be nerfed a lot more than nova enrage, I must say I do find it odd how you say you can guarantee something about high lvl pvp when you barely play pvp at all.
Oh, I forgot to mention nova enrage straight up breaks pve events like time attack and hordes. With time attack, I can beat every single stage except set battles that have camo/DR spam, including the wormhole levels. I use nova enrage up until the second to last difficulty, but Iāve heard from plenty of others that they can beat all the difficulties except for the hell mode battles with enrage. I should probably try that tbh. I havenāt started GoH yet since itās so easy and boring
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i did all levels on hordes on auto play 
It definitely does not break them, itās just one of the good strategies for tackling them.
In PvP Exu makes a good point about them not being good in high level PvP, but youāre right that theyāre kind of a problem for the rest of the playerbase in PvP. For that reason, I wouldnāt mind a nerf.
A while ago they randomly decided to buff enrage teammate (vile rage too). It used to give +100% attack from 6-7* monsters and +50% attack from 0-5* monsters, then they made it +100% from all. I donāt know why they did, but it made Demontoad far better. Personally, Iād like this buff to be reverted. I think it would completely fix the problem.
Are you sure about that? Last I beat every single time attack battle on the first try, including three of the wormholes. Thereās literally no skill to it. Also hereās the lineup I always go with for anyone curious. Persephia isnāt needed but it helps
Demontoad
Noxdragon
Novadrake
Shiny Gearcroc
Bitterbeast
F.D. Salvia
Persephia
Ignoring the fact that thereās actually no way for him to know this firsthand, I would like to point out that there were several players in the top 100 and top 50 who used nova aoe. Itās clearly creeping up toward the top pvp bracket, not just the lower ones like many players like to claim
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Nerf Demontoad and give Novadrake back his 50tu for his moves and Second Wind as his SS instead of From The Brink like it was before and we will call it even.
I havenāt found it to be quite this consistent. Also, isnāt this the kind of performance we expect for the best strategies in a PvE event? Iāve done Showdown Tower with 100 win streak for the last few times the event has been out, but wouldnāt say my team breaks it.
This has been the case ever since they buffed Demontoad. I guess maybe because you didnāt know this first-hand before you couldnāt comment on it? 
(Saying this because seriously itās not nice to dismiss peopleās comments with reasoning as you do - Iāve seen you do this lots to Exu and youāve done it to me in the past too. We donāt need to play PvP 24/7 to know some things; me and Exu have played this game for many years.)
Itās not surprising Nova AoE teams can get up there, considering they can beat a lot of the weaker teams and obviously theyāll have some good matchups against strong teams too.
Thatās probably because he claims to know things with a good degree of certainty about high level pvp when he barely plays it. Wouldnāt you at the very least find it a bit off putting if I was doing something like making sweeping statements about the UC top 10 bracket when my best accomplishments are two top 50s using a team I copied from you?
As for me criticizing the merit of various positions youāve held in the past, that was because you acted like you knew about the current meta after playing like 40 pvp games during the entire season. This was also coincidentally when myst became popular again because of the restriction list shifting the meta towards AP spam.
Iāve known this for a while, but I also felt that lately weāve been seeing an increase in nova aoe teams too. I could be wrong since everyone has different experiences in pvp, but at least I have something to base my claims off of.
Perhaps thatās the case. The devs do seem to be pushing more and more broken pve strats like purpies and the new chipmunk so I guess it makes sense for an easily accessible strat like nova enrage to make time attack and other events not require any brainpower.
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I found whenever i shellock something, even if full health, ai wraithost would eat those shells