In general we do need more counters to AP spam. I have faith in the passive “focus” coming on a couple of legendaries (and a SE) and “true hit” has potential if the TU is not crazy on a legendary.
@Dev_VKC Here’s another idea for an AP counter: “Turn to stone”, which makes target enemy protector monster have its atk reduced to 0, TU of moves increased by 20% (like blizzard) and given unmovable status (and maybe defence increased too - fitting with the flavour of turning them into stone?). It would have 50TU or 70TU. Put it on a monster with “true hit” then they can partially disable protectors which they leave on the battlefield as they kill the other monsters.
Another idea (bit stronger here): “Break protection”, which removes auto-protect / protect status from target enemy. This one should be 130TU or something and maybe one-time use (a 50TU SS with 100s restriction??). Here you could probably make an enemy protector absolutely useless on the field and make the rest of the battle 4v3.
Final idea: “Focused team”, a passive which grants all teammates focus.
Because snowflakes keep complaining about every single strategy that works. Everything is getting nerfed. People running out of options. I enjoyed facing AP spam last 3 PvP’s. Not a big deal. Personally I’ve been using 3 AP’s the last 9 PvP’s…But with this special rule I spammed the heck out of it.
I think people oppose braindead uncountered strategies or RNG “strategies.”
AP spam is both lol.
If they just took out the RNG from AP it would actually be fine. But when I PK lords and stag blocks and then lords blocks for stag and goes to HG and gets a desperate double thats some grade A .
In that scenario i obv want to get lords back to back so he cant overwatch. But stag blocked my first chance and didnt die. So i then wanted to take out stag and deal with lords later but instead i killed neither and gave lords a tuen with DD.
Honestly what isn’t brain dead? OoO? Geo with Malwing and shockers? Fast FL? Assisted Dark? Auro with death revenge? Retribution?? It’s all brain dead.
I wouldn’t have a problem with this strategy if the team that I built SPECIFICALLY to counter it didn’t still often fail to bring it down. Just like lemon, I built an anti AP front; cyclo, delu and alba, with drakion and tago in midgame just for additional coverage. I still lose my key monsters to confident strike, toxic killer, assassinate, etc. before they have a chance to get through their barrier.
I have faced the same with other setups. Sometimes we just don’t have the monsters to beat certain teams. Wait until normal PvP and it’s not as hard to deal with. Running Oak is brilliant against AP spam with Duscy. This special rule is taking AP’s to the extreme level.
I feel like the whole “brain dead strategy” thing is less a case of a strategy being braindead, but more a strategy not being fun to play against.
Getting your first 8 monsters killed by nereida abyssraider before you can do anything isn’t very fun.
Getting aoe’d down by assisted dark spam with no meaningful interaction isn’t very fun.
One on One is a team specifically built to remove all interaction with your opponent by putting them to sleep.
Death revenge isn’t very fun because it removes any effect your choices have on the game.
Auto protect spam isn’t very fun because your only interaction with the opponent is to try and disassemble their wall while they execute their strategy(in mtg a deck like this is often called a goldfishing deck. Your entire strategy is built around doing your game winning combo as fast as possible while ignoring your opponent).
Auro and Grovo feel bad because it makes your interaction feel futile.
Zibgazer wasn’t fun because it just killed 10 monsters before you could interact with it.
Nightrider back in the day was the same. It wasn’t very fun because it just wiped your first 4 monsters before you could interact with it.
Azra stealth team wasn’t super fun because the stealth removed interaction.
Currently people are complaning about camouflage monsters because they are made to be monsters you can’t interact with directly.
If you look at all of these things, most people are complaining about the lack of interaction. This is why people call for nerfs.
Best thing for devs to do right now is to encourage more interaction. Whether that be through nerfing the current meta, or by creating ways to interact with these strategies that you don’t have the capability to interact much with.
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