Itās a shame Poseidon wasnāt a girl for you. Youād be all over that I bet! When I saw a leader of the Abyssoldiers I immediately thought of you
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Trust me, Iām having a lot of fun with him right now.
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Some excellent changes / points there
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I lost this bet tooā¦ It seems like they last one is gonna have Stunbreaker instead!
Yeah, I was so close! Didnāt think of stunbreaker but of course that makes sense for the storm CW. Iām going to do a little update post for the CW soon to balance them properly in the tier list (moving them up).
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Just look at any video from my channel and and then tell me that Nikki is only B in PVP
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You only post videos of when you win on your channel. Judging from every single pvp encounter Iāve had with you, Nikki is only B in PVP
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Lol thatās brutal @NMEduck
@Coltraz Iāve checked out your channel as a good source of what Nikki is like. Sheās a nice sweeper with some extra utility but isnāt that incredible to what the higher tier mythics offer. She dies far easier than most of them. Honestly, arenāt your garden fairies outperforming her?
Why is torazou E in general? When He can one shot buffed monsters.
Ig thatās because his attacks are very specific and the TU is quite high. Also the āIn the zoneā attack needs 5 kills to get activated (which is a very difficult to set up in the first place)
Yeah, heās slow. If it was released in 2017, itād probably have been a S tier monster, but now sweepers need to be fast to be competitive, while Torazou only has two 130sec sweeping moves and its most powerful sweeping move requires 5 kills.
Please correct me if Iām wrong but Deodragon should be higher in PvP, because with 99 speed, he can charge then wipe out your entire frontline, it has also stun immunity so you canāt stop it. Thatās just my opinionš
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You are wrong.
Lmao, but can you please tell an explanation?
You can use the 70 seconds one and it is still unstoppable 
It also wipes out literally half of my monsters (even legendaries) before i can kill it. 
āSlayerbaneā moves are not well suited to PvE. If you build your team like a PvP one and trade monsters back and forth then yeah it will find targets but generally speaking you should build your team to be more resistant, with a couple of monsters dying occasionally then you regaining some control. With that in mind, slayerbreak usually gets 1-2 kills then the targets dry up and Torazou has very little to offer. Getting to 5 kills is pretty unrealistic, swift cannibalise is practically useless for PvE, slash all is similar and so what youāre depending on is the enemy team having shieldsā¦ which isnāt common enough.
So basically you can slap it in a team and itāll probably get a kill or two, even more if it gets ignored by the enemy, but itās very underwhelming compared to the potential of other monsters and doesnāt suit the kind of teams you want for PvE. Bear in mind also that the targets for slayerbreak may not be enemies you actually want to kill (either youāre leaving them alive or itās the other monsters who are a problem). On the surface it looks like it can get kills better than some other monsters in the lower tiers but in practice there are a bunch of things which come together that make it pretty bad for a PvE team.
As already pointed out, instant charge canāt be used immediately so itās not for use in the front line. If you want to go charge ā instant charge + energy blast in the front line then Deodragon canāt have its TU potted above +3, otherwise 100s has not passed by the time it has the second move. Also, every single other monster will have had a turn before it so itās really easy to stop in higher level PvP. If the person goes for energy blast with a single charge it does quite bad damage for the TU investment.
Outside of the front line is where it does best. However, its damage has never really been impressive enough to make it viable. These days it also gets wrecked by the amount of camouflage about. What you need is to have a 90-100s window when it enters for it to charge twice and do the energy blast and you canāt really expect that to happen.
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It has mediocre attack (Energy Burst deals around 2500-3000 damage to most legendaries, not enough to OHKO almost anything except for Earth ones) and limited attack options.
The actually powerful version of Deodragon is Razoray. It has Instant Charge too, but instead of the kinda useless Grit (which makes no sense on a monster which heals himself to attack) has Hold Ground, which combined with Energy Charge makes it more durable and far harder to get rid of once it enters the field.
Not to mention, it also has more attack, a piercing single target move (Laser Blast) and a pseudo infinite-use Stun Flash.
This makes me wonder why are they both C tier in PvP @Killerdog! Imo Razoray deserves at least B tier.
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I like Razoray more too. It doesnāt actually have higher attack but I prefer the options. I had Deodragon in the same tier because energy charge used to have 100TU, which meant Razoray was too easy to leave on the battlefield while Deodragon had the potential for bloodthirst (especially with a GT to it after a double charged blast). With energy charge becoming 70TU and more camouflage monsters about I think perhaps Deodragon should be demoted or perhaps Razoray pushed up. Iāll have another look at them both. There is a fair bit more energy charge stuff going on now, which is where Razoray probably stands out most.
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The best way to run Deodrragon is with turn givers preferably Lavaronix. You can even use Bloodthrist.
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