Naw u doing right. My nyx team has plum at +0. U have to run a slow monster now just in case u go up against this team
Yeah i really noticed that
I used to run nyx with kirina but it was just to fast after flowers got released so i took a note out of janneās playbook and have been playing rhine and its been working quite well. I do miss the DR rock tho
No it isnāt. Iāve said a few times the design is clearly designed to promote slower FLs, but thatās the first time Iāve said I donāt think it was even intentional by the devs to allow high speed monsters to have a turn after shriek before the user. Even if I had repeated, it was to a different person.
Ah see I knew weād agree 
with the latter point. I donāt think they took bonuses into consideration at all. Which is why theyāre left with this issue. Thatās why I think they should take another look at it, as I donāt think they completely achieved the aims of the moveset design. They should have taken it into account because all monsters start at 0 bonus.
The design is great, but it shouldnāt push back slower monsters, increase the push back but let it only affect monsters with speed 50 and above that way its balanced
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No than u can counter it just by running slow monster which nyx players already do.
Is the purpose to punish slow monsters or fast monsters ?
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Well yes but actually no
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itās really annoying. can someone explain to me why when my Kat goes first and uses cat zone 1s she immediately loses her turn with Mortilys
Purpose for all monsters. Honestly it punishes the user since i have to build a team that slower than my opponent
Do you remember which monsters they were which countered you?
I.e. Would they have gone slower than you if you kept your monsters at +0 and the change to +2 meant they no longer did?
I noticed that too! Must be a bug lol
This is a known issue, and we are working on it.
NoelLemon2 has also reported it in the bug thread.
Sorry for the confusion 
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Look please stop responding like Iām slow or something. Ofc my monsters are slower than there lol. My fastest monster in my FL is 23 speed. How about this. U run the team u recommend me and run them at ur speed and see for urself how often u never get hellish off unless u +0 everything
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Iām curious. How many games do you think youāve played with it? Iām on about 50+ I think
I been using this since Thursday of last week.
I been testing it all together since day 1 it came out. My thought was when nyx get on the limited list i can use him as a replacement so im trying to make him wrk lol
I played like 500 ish matches with him during rule
With flower eirlys rhine moku
And i can say that he definetly works aslong as the rest of your team can keep up the momentum of killing 4 monsters at ones 
Yea i got a 24 streak with him this pvp but my overall winrate is lower than it normal is so idk. Im trying a different fl now and i like it more
I had an 88% wr with this team during my grand champion push
So it definetly works fine. And pretty much all its losses was to unown after i betted him to run a +0 strawbaba in rule so thats my bad
Cant run this anymore caus of the mythic cost increase tho lol
Iām jealous i want that holy myth in ur fl. She such good support