monster balance update for pvp

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Hey everyone,

Even though I’m in full vacation mode with cosmic-level laziness, I still felt the need to write this — because some monsters have become far too problematic and need to be addressed as a priority.

I’m posting this here instead of the usual nerf thread because these cases deserve immediate attention.

  1. Mortylis

Not much to add — people have already pointed out most of the issues.
Just to reiterate: this monster absolutely needs balancing.

  1. Albion

The so-called nerf it received wasn’t a real one.
The TU of ha and Zan should be raised to at least 50 TU to reduce how oppressive it is on the battlefield.

  1. Astra

Double Poison Eater at 110 TU is not acceptable. Every other monster with that skill (without restrictions) has it at 170 TU, so this needs to be aligned.

The speed boost with each resurrection is completely absurd and should be removed.

  1. Pandora

Swap Mimic at 1 TU is far too powerful. It should be increased to 50 TU, or at the very least, we should be able to see which boxes actually contain Pandora.
Blind guessing should not be a core mechanic.

  1. Calamitas

Its passive that turns protectors into mini Cursed Wyrms needs to be toned down. Drop the activation chance to 20%.

Also, if multiple monsters have the protector icon, none of them should be able to protect each other. It’s completely ridiculous to target a monster and still get blocked like that.

  1. Kumachi

Giving it the ability to summon six legendaries, including one with a GT entrance, is insane.
That one summon alone can be worth 109 team cost, which is just absurd.
At this point, you might as well let Azida do the same.

Suggestions:

Limit it to 1 summon of each legendary,

Or replace Grizzlyguard with Ponctibear.

  1. Rozaliz

Same issue as with Calamitas — the ability to turn tanky units into protectors is too much, especially for the TU it costs.

Recommended changes:

Increase the TU of this skill to 130,

Make it usable only once,

And make it ineffective on allied mythic monsters.

  1. Nyx

Formata should not be usable if an ally has more than 50% speed.
If she’s meant to be played with slow units, then the design should fully commit to that, not just pretend to.

  1. Goch

What you’ve done to Goch is outright madness.

He can spam Piercing Blow with insane speed.

Even Hades, who had the fastest variant of that move, was held back by a Link condition.

And now Goch can use Tyrannical Rule twice?!
This is just over the top.

You need to revert him to his original state immediately.

Thanks for reading. I really hope this feedback gets acknowledged.
These monsters are disrupting the balance of the game and fixing them should be a top priority.

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These are just my personal opinions. But I think every point of view should be taken into account.
I’m not the type to ask for excessive nerves on the contrary. I think I’m not alone in thinking that we need a good rebalancing so if @EBO or @Killerdog could add a poll to see the opinions concerning these monsters everyone’s opinions

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Woah. I agree she is not as bad as people make it out to be but I didnt know people thought this and there were others who were using her

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Are we seriously complaining about Kumachi :rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl:

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I agree with everything, but this is just not acceptable, Goch was DEAD before this buff, maybe Tyranical twice is wrong, but the Accelerate is fine, remember you are comparing Piercing Goch Strike vs Hadeshoof, a monster who don’t need the use of the SS to do something, Goch can’t kill almost nothing with that stats, and even that Hadeshoof TU are completely understandable becoz Counter Stun, Goch use One Piercing (without buff) and kill nothing, get stunable, poisonable and sleepable, easy kill with PayBack Killer and no way to get another turn by her own

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Ironically Goch is “The Punisher of Poison” but Berry and Mai are the ones getting Antidote, the skill to “punish poison” from Goch are the same like the legendary Dracorrosa

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the classic: asking for nerfs to every monster you don’t own without actually saying it

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I was with you for the first few of these but then the nerf requests went wild.

Pandora’s box displaying which contains her… that makes no sense with the lore of Pandora.
Kumachi needing any kind of nerf… absolutely hilarious. I’ve met her a bunch in PvP and she’s laughable every time, making the battle easier for me to win.

Rozaliz’s mechanic is super interesting and a really cool addition to the game I think. To get the most out of her is tricky and she’s only good in certain teams and even then she’s just another low speed monster that can swing a game if it gets a turn… nothing game breaking. If she got buffed more I would be very worried, but right now she reads super balanced and strong to me.

The Nyx change you’re asking for seems like a weird pet peeve. What’s the setup you’re taking issue with? Nyx setups tend to be fragile or inconsistent, but they feel brutal to play against if they counter your team.

Goch just got buffed. It’s too soon to be making big statements about it. It’s far more threatening so treat it as a high priority to kill/disable.

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Rude. Im top 30 (could’ve been top 20 if I pushed more the last day) with kumachi. She is far from laughable but yeah I don’t know if she needs a nerf.

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Medusa no restriction on daunt+ from the start of the Battle, + ignoring stealth really needs a review , also what the game needs is making bastia great again the game turned into entrances spam at it’s finest no team building required just bunch of instant turn entrances like leira , nightingale, fellowed but tengoku Alice and a lot of other entrances

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Berry damage is trash and fails to kill many times and mai is random

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It’s all because they changed Nightingale. After that any Bastia control team is no longer an option to run.

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A wierd amount of nyx teams currently using monsters like lidiefeath and the snowball guy, and i assume thats the peeve being referenced to,

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Yeah I’ve found Bastia to be absolutely key in order to face off against teams. Most of my recent teams have used her in slot 6-8.

I know I’m mean. I’m sorry, but it’s bold of you to use her. I’m genuinely glad it’s working out though

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Absolutely not. It’s the coolest part of the monster. However, the AI should be adjusted to target the boxes and not just let Pandora spawn in every time.

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Bastia is horrible design it is mostly used to lock opponent away from any potential comeback, the only monster that broke this was nightgale and she was nerfed heavily.She was like that for over a year and no one bat an eye as soon she is in the anniversary banner she gets nerfed !!!

I honestly think these nerfs should be reverted and possibly even buffed to 130tu two uses, she is significantly weaker than leria and cost more for some reason

Leria enters the field at 4 tu which is insta in 99% of the cases, has pull back, revenge skill, setup many monsters and gives dead weight to the opponent.

The only advantage that nightgale has is her entrance cant be blocked by three monsters only in the entire game !!!

Am not asking for leria nerf, but we need more come back monsters otherwise its just a snowball effect

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lol nightingale buff request. well, at least it’s not as ridiculous as a kumachi nerf.

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The comments are so ridiculous that I have a hard time choosing which one is more ridiculous lol

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Let’s be honest we all know it’s nagandia daunt+ nerf is the one you found the most ridiculous

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That’s what a suggestion lol the best thing would be to prevent her from switching a box in just 1tu

Is this mechanic interesting? Is this a joke, I hope? She’s almost nothing different from this calamitas thing on other CWs or a vulgar AP spam. We all know that these things have caused quite a stir, I don’t see how it could become tolerable just because it’s on a ■■■■■. You can actually transform things like Astra into AP, which is so stupid. During the rank, I lost 4 times to that when I had already deactivated Astra. She just transforms it into AP, and it’s ready to leave Zera, knowing that to deactivate Astra you have to be ready to lose 4 monsters…

When it was released, Airavalon was widely considered mediocre, then it got a minor buff (the one where it gets the Nova Charge) and people laughed at it, saying it was still mediocre (which was true), except a group of Chinese people started using it and doing interesting things with it, then Duck noticed it and put it to use too (yes he is not the first pro player to use it) when his team had been heavily nerfed and he got good results with it and the following season Airavalon exploded in popularity and went from a mediocre monster to a galactic threat that must be nerfed to death.

In any case, to say that this is not the first time members of this community neglect a monster before a goat comes to show them its true usefulness. The successive invocation of kumachi is abused and some Chinese players (as usual) have found a way to abuse it. It is not because you are too blind to see the potential of a monster that this one is nice.

Nyx should be used with slow monsters, that’s all. That’s why she was created. Whether she can do it all the way, like Mortylis, or no fermeta.

during this release Albion was so denigrated that it was improved three days later; I don’t see why it would take me longer to say that they abused Goch, it’s a fact and it needs to be examined more closely.

Once again, these are just examples that I took, nothing more, and they were my opinions, so before crying scandal, I would like you to be able to argue too.