Let’s talk about the Bastia nerf

Thx I apreciate it,

But I still didnt understand why u treat link fire with superstrong moveset.

Example magmatyrant is strongest SE protectkiller now (If we compare to another SE protect killer) . And comparasion between shiny fire with another shiny monster . ex Shiny galiodragon with shiny oakqtulhu .

they may work, but there are not many players have them, and more fire hunters are needed

Some old legendary monsters that are difficult to use can be given the mission of fire hunter

Take in care
The Fire link have shield entrance or hold ground and not even Aoi (awaken form) kill one shot, both got flame eater but if have hold ground is just make a move useless

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Aoi seems to get the job done if it’s awakened. Last season I faced a guy who absolutely annihilated my midgame with element massacre and it was unavoidable since it has roaring entrance. He sobeking right after (great choice btw) so it was over for me.

haunt+flame eater+Excessive

No you haven’t. There is better stun protection such as Sturgeon, but even if the enemy runs stun protection in slots 1, 3 , 5 , 7, a stun locker can simply kill them and leave stunnables in 2, 4 , 6 and 8 alive and stun lock. It’s quite easy unless the enemy runs stun immunes and that’s why stun kills the creativity of the game, because we rely on them.

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Do you still dare the devs?

I am still winning :wink:

Going back to Bastia. Ultimately people paid for steak and that got downgraded to a burger and now they’re left with a child’s portion of chicken nuggets and chips lol.

The first nerf had to happen. The second felt unnecessary but I just feel bad for all the players who paid hard earned money/ gems for a product they no longer have.

Better testing and compensation to the players I think.

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I guess the testing of your stun lock nerfs were as serious as your Bastia testing

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Thank you so much for reverting that! It means a lot that you made the nerf less heavy.

However, random knockback is an extremely bad move in PvP. I understand you want to reduce the amount of control she offers, but a much better way would be to make it a 200TU knockback. Not being able to choose the target is a horrible experience for the user. Please consider making this change! You could also put a time restriction from start of battle on the heal+purify+shield move. I don’t think people would complain about that.

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It really isn’t. Besides healing and the passive it has nothing to offer in PvP. You can now more or less ignore it

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I agree with @Killerdog, @Dev_VKC you reverted the wrong nerf. Random knock back is an unusable move in PvP. That’s a troll move for an SE but not for an awakened Mythic. 200 TU on Knockback and 150 sec restriction on the healing moves seems fine for me.

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Nah knock back “creates a terrible gaming experience”

999l: I am a high-quality representative of stun, but I am weakness😭

What does the name chickenbrother even mean? Are you part chicken? Are you a rooster? So many questions that I need answers to Rui Zou.

(ps bastia actually IS a counter to stun lock)

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This is a fair adjustment that makes progress toward @Dev_VKC and the devs’ goal of making Bastia less oppressive but not going so far as to making one of her moves unusable (random knockback).

The problem with random knockback is that 1) you can’t choose the enemy, and 2) the enemy is knocked BACK to the end of their team.

This is wayyy worse than knockback random, which 1) you CAN choose the enemy, and 2) the enemy is knocked back into a random spot in their team (which complicates their combos).

At face value the knockback change doesn’t seem huge to those who don’t have Bastia. But when comparing the two, it’s clear why this is an enormous change.

As an awakened mythic, I hope the devs revert the knockback change, increase the TU and/or set a restriction on Goddesses’ Protection.

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a good proposal :ok_hand:

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What about her losing her disruptive ability at all and gaining another support ability?

I don’t know, like purify, purifying must, stealth teammate, accelerate team or else.

Or a medium damage move like power slash.