Im just in completely disbelief how powerful these arks are in the same team (not in this order).
It is ridiculous how much difference they make and the battle is just one sided.
At least half of every team is made up of dragons, which means destructor will knock three at a time.
What other ark can do that? Omega is also a 12 star monster and does not have a similar power.
SS + kami, just ridiculous, there are no effective attacks against SS which means kami will stay alive for a long time since AOEs wont hurt it so much.
I mean, i have quite a lot of experience in PVP but I faced faced Don Stun 4 times today and got anihillated. Seriously he had around 9 arks left everytime.
Also faced a japanese guy (dont know if is a ha.ck or not) and the same problem. There is just no way to compete.
I see people crying about stego being op all the time. I wish it was, my stego had no use whatsoever being destroyed before it could do anything. At best ot would stun SS once before dying.
My point is, destructor and SS have been released a ling time ago, before i even started playing, and still there are no useful arks to compete against them?
Ok, metal slash destructor and you’re fine, but chances are you will lose three arks at least before doing so.
I cannot understand why 12 star arks can be so unabalanced and different to 11 stars or even omega.
It just feels that coming up with strategies is useless because there is no way to beat those teams without cheap tricks.
Kami will become more and more common, but again just for a handful of players who keep swapping diamonds using dc. No effort whatsoever fir 777 diamonds. So its not like kami requires a lot of effort and technique to get. Anyone whos got free time to swap dcs will eventually get it quite quickly.
Just wanted to say it. I know its not gonna make any difference as i know the devs are worried about the new games and dont even bother coming here anymore, but maybe other players feel rhe same way.
Im just in completely disbelief how powerful these arks are in the same team (not in this order).
It is ridiculous how much difference they make and the battle is just one sided.
At least half of every team is made up of dragons, which means destructor will knock three at a time.
What other ark can do that? Omega is also a 12 star monster and does not have a similar power.
SS + kami, just ridiculous, there are no effective attacks against SS which means kami will stay alive for a long time since AOEs wont hurt it so much.
I mean, i have quite a lot of experience in PVP but I faced faced Don Stun 4 times today and got anihillated. Seriously he had around 9 arks left everytime.
Also faced a japanese guy (dont know if is a ha.ck or not) and the same problem. There is just no way to compete.
I see people crying about stego being op all the time. I wish it was, my stego had no use whatsoever being destroyed before it could do anything. At best ot would stun SS once before dying.
My point is, destructor and SS have been released a ling time ago, before i even started playing, and still there are no useful arks to compete against them?
Ok, metal slash destructor and you’re fine, but chances are you will lose three arks at least before doing so.
I cannot understand why 12 star arks can be so unabalanced and different to 11 stars or even omega.
It just feels that coming up with strategies is useless because there is no way to beat those teams without cheap tricks.
Kami will become more and more common, but again just for a handful of players who keep swapping diamonds using dc. No effort whatsoever fir 777 diamonds. So its not like kami requires a lot of effort and technique to get. Anyone whos got free time to swap dcs will eventually get it quite quickly.
Just wanted to say it. I know its not gonna make any difference as i know the devs are worried about the new games and dont even bother coming here anymore, but maybe other players feel rhe same way.
Totally agree. Destructor’s dracobane damage is insane and his speed… amazing. SS’s scapegoat and defense are really annoying and currently not counterable (only knockback can save you ). And kami… :o
Actually all three are semi easy to take out with a good strategy. I faced destructor today and he didn’t get a turn before he was ko’d the piont of pvp is too knock out your opponents ark before they kill yours.
Yea but u have to get really lucky to have metal slasher at the right time he comes in! And to go ahead him too. Usually this dont appen to me. Maybe im just unlucky.
Well I fought SS and destructor in the battle there was no kami in it so it won’t help you completely.
I use in order
Barricadus
Scorpionix
Metalodious
Chopperbug
Gremknight
Arkwing
Luxknight
Snowja
Tripphoon
Halopard
Typhoonwyrm
Osiriswyrm
Magmawyrm
Angelon
Omegawyrm
I’ve gotten my streak to 8 in masters then I lost
I guess you were lucky, the destructor didn’t get a turn or it didn’t get to catch any dragon types… However that’s hardly your strategy because it’s just the destructor jumped in at a wrong time, any difference can completely over turn the whole result.
I personally battled teams with destructor many times, my experience is, always keep one of your Metal slasher or holy types alive and keep the TU low. Most importantly, hope the destructor not to jump in at its perfect timing
I have three metal slashers scattered in my team (beginning, middle, end) and two to three holy arks in the same places. I can usually take out destructor very quickly, but SS…
Hi Churromonster, I have played many times against you last nite and tonite. I believe I have won every single game. You might not recognize me but my line up consist of plasmorex in the first three arks (I think this will help you remember me). I have to say your line up is strong and well thought out.
@ewertonrodrigo, I recognize your name, very unique. We have played many times in PvP.
@OnTopic: Like I said in the past SS is the most OP ark, in the hands of a very experienced player … it is very hard to beat if you don’t have a SS yourself. A smart player with SS SHOULD beat 9/10 a smart player with no SS, having SS is such a BIG advantage. Stego is the 2nd most OP ark. Stego + haste + strategically placed arks prior to stego appearing will take out at least 3-4 arks EASILY.
And even though Destructor can kill 3 dragon arks all in 1 shot, I don’t consider him OP at all. It is a glass cannon. Any holy or metal slasher can 1 hit kill it. If destructor kills 3 dragons in a row, it is YOUR fault for putting 3 dragons together in the first place.
Kami SHOULD be strong. It is the ultimate prize in PvP. But it is by NO MEANS unbeatable. I’d take SS any day over Kami. I have beaten Don Stun in the past a few times (lost a lot too), but as of recent if I see a team with SS + mossgolem + stego + kami + minespider, I simply forfeit. It is a waste of my time.
Hey eddster, we have played each other indeed, in fact today we had a battle not long ago, you won. Last time we played I beat you though =P
I like playing against you as It is always a good game.
Dont get me wrong, the problem mentioned is regarding the three arks in the same team. Just SS is not that big a problem for me, same goes to destructor + SS.
But the three of them its just too much. It way past the time of an efficient counter to SS, it seems that devs are not really paying attention to the actual PVP’s situation.
I just dont like the idea of not standing a chance when playing against certain arks.
The funny thing is that the last OM monster came to destroy a very usefull strategy to take out SS, which was by having minespider and usually protecting it with barricadus.
Now it is a lot harder and I feel that minespider is becoming useless as in my case it always seem to come out in the wrong time.
I think some dev is in love with SS and wants to keep it the best ark in PVP.
Indeed, our battles are very enjoying for me too. I know what you mean when you feel that you stand no chance… which is why I forfeit when I see SS + mossgolem + stego + kami + minespider to avoid losing my time and effort. It’s just too much to handle.
Don’t take out your minespider. 1 for 3 arks. Pretty good trade, you just need to put strategic arks before it comes out. ie. chopperbug, raioh. Scorpionix is pretty darn good. I personally love it
There haven’t been any updates yet, so no opportunity to buff or nerf arkadians.
I’ve mentioned previously though that Shadowstalker is fine as it is, it’s an 11 star arkadian that’s holy, i.e. no specific type weakness. The thing that needs changing is giving mystic bane a buff so it’s more effective against mystic type. If you have a more effective mystic bane then this would act as a counter to Shadowstalker.
Currently mystic bane is the only bane move that doesn’t do well against it’s particular type, because it’s damage is just too low.
I agree with you and i do believe no ark needs to be nerfed, but a little more attention should be paid by the devs when releasing new OM arks so we can counter the arks that are having too much advantage.
Just to make it clear again, the main problem is when you pair SS and kami, thats an OP duo that atm, for me, it is impossible to take on unless using cheap stunning strategies.
Nothing against SS on its own, although the mystic bane thing as you mentioned is a big issue.
It just sucks knowing that sometimes there is nothing you can do to beat some teams and that completely defeats the purpose of pvp, where you should be counting on the players abilities not on the arks to succeed.
I agree that new players are at a big disadvantage that they cannot currently get a shadowstalker or a destructor. I would really like to see past OM rewards become available as PvP awards after a certain number of completed matches. It might even encourage players to not disconnect almost immediately. I wouldn’t even mind some of the previous OM awards repeated in as a weekly OM award. It would give me a week off from running through the rat maze.
I agree with all the posts above. Ideally if all the OMs are at a similar level, this wouldn’t be a problem. However, their levels vary a lot.
Kamiwyrm is meant to be the ultimate prize, it has to be OP. I wonder what keeps those players motivated to continue PVP though.
Shadowstalker - a tank without counter. It would be much better if it is a beast type.
Destructor - 12 star. High speed. AOE dracobane. The damage bonus applies to other non-dragon type Arks. Plus there are so many dragon type Arks. And there are not many PVP viable Arks with dracobane (only Vegitiger).
Yes the new comers are at a big disadvantage that they don’t have access to SS or destructor. Hope the devs will do something about it.
There’s a counter though - minespider LOL. There’s nothing minespider can’t kill!
eddster
Well I didn’t play pvp yesterday but I do remember your team from today and yeah your teams way better than mine. I think the only strong part of mine is the starting line as after a while it gets easier for me to lose.
SS may not have a weakness but it does after a while and it’s only a threat when it uses scapegoat on let’s say chopperbug I faced kami a while ago and that thing is a real game changer in the right hands even in the wrong hands but even then it dies with a strategy
I hope the minespider becomes an OM award. I am horrible at timing eggs and would almost be I almost willing to trade my kami for one. Seems like half the players at the masters level haven one.
it’s very uncommon to go ahead him
