You sure? I think Nulltron is the most aggressive one thanks to its double sweeping and RAW, but Canishogun is huge support to Retribution teams, works perfectly with APs (potentially making it as disruptive as Nulltron, if not more), works in PvE too thanks to piercing damage, has got one of the most peculiar support moves in Underdog (which needs to be made viable, it’s too much a waste unused) and has its own version of Execute, akin to Nulltron albeit a bit weaker.
Nulltron is a self sufficient Stun monster that sets itself up, Canishogun is slower and less aggressive but its disruption and combo potential is arguably higher than Nulltron. Though I am not saying Nulltron is weaker by any means, in fact he’s undeniably stronger than Canishogun, at least in PvP.
I’m not arguing any longer with you because its like talking to a wall.
For those who don’t know @DevilsMisfortune it’s Sassolino a guy who runs AP Spam with Auro and has an 80 % WR (he even beated me last ranked the only time i faced him) and using so many protectors and having such an impressive WR he stills complain about RAW being OP and Orca being broken i mean it doesn’t get any clearer than this and if you don’t understand it i will spell it out for you if ANYONE gets 80 freaking % WR with a Strategy that has been “overnerfed” it only means that the nerf hasn’t been enough yet!!! And this same guy was part of the anti Canis gang and so this is the typical player who doesn’t like to get out of his confort zone (AP Spam + Poison) and cries to nerf anything that puts him in danger…
I agree but his ss is terrible. It’s way too unpractical compared to its old self and they nerfed buff percentage anyways, right? So no need for the TU nerf to stay.
I beat you exactly because I run a strategy, while you run a top tier showroom. Before talking about buffs/nerfs at least try some teambuilding first.
It’s funny how when other people complain about monsters it’s them “not wanting to get out of their comfort zone”, but when you complain about Gazer (despite running Moku, which is worse) and propose nerfs that would completely kill the guy it’s all legit. For the love of God at least I’m trying to be objective, you want a top tier monster to be buffed and call others bias. Get a grip.
Ultra-evolve Gripheon, I assure you the damage difference is noticeable when Ultra-Evolved.
Though, what @Tanbeer proposed is better. Glaciermane and Siegewhale both have full attack statline. All the 4★ pseudostarters (Zeugigant, Brakioquake, Novatusk) have less attack than Glaciermane. Hence, Assisted with Water is the best choice for raw power: the only downside is that Wolfrozor is standard defence.
Therefore, if you have Frosthide (unevolved Hiberzor) you can use it instead of Wolfrozor because his Piercing Blow when buffed is a guaranteed OHKO. Frosthide will also die from the recoil due to its abysmal HP and will allow for the next monster to enter the field. Remember to pot Canishogun though, since Hiberzor is 98% speed.
I don’t have hiberzor, even my glaciarmane gets a turn before cani and I don’t even have pots because I just potted my Leogeist to +6 recently.
I am trying demontoad in place of any one of them to enrage some other.
Lol you were still finding out
His forum account was banned earlier. It’s SaSSolino and the new account he made was named Smugsmodia and he renamed it as @DevilsMisfortune
You can lower his cost to 1, his SS alongside that high TU will still be completely useless.
Thing the way they are.
As for those who say “if you can’t find use to it it’s not the monsters fault…”; since the nerf no one has found use to Cani’s SS, doesn’t it means then that the whole community is uncapable of thinking of something you’re putting as “that easy”?. Please show us the light @DevilsMisfortune
What Devs probably wanted to emphasize was that the purpose of the SS is to power up epics. People were using the low TU underdog to skip some seconds to properly activate their retribution FL… Which is not the intended use of the skill.
Correct me if I’m wrong but potted +9 Underdog will be 136 sec which is long but not unbearably so. Saying that this TU is “completely useless” is a big overstatement. And what’s to say there isn’t stun incoming after, in that case Cani will get a turn straight away!
136 is bearable? are you smoking? we are talking about a monster who is weak to chrono killer (time’s up) and can be one shot by even storm monsters. if you are scared of the retribution FL (which I don’t get why would you play this over jag or zib… hell even fire fox thingy), then make it an instant? 136 TU is unplayable for a unit like him.
just in case some thicc skulled people didn’t get me here, I think canishogun is amazing as he is. he is pretty much another dracorosa who is great as a stand alone 13 cost legendary. the problem with his ss though, unlike dracorosa who can be even better with its SS, canishogun becomes works. I just would like to be able to utilize canishogun in fun combos without getting him out of the game for 136 TU for essentially nothing.
No, I am most definitely not smoking. Smoking kills, by the way.
You’re saying that 136 sec is unplayable for him, yet unpotted his active moves are 130 TU, 130 TU, 130 TU and 160 TU. And on top of that he has Stun Converter. Please do tell me how 136 TU is unplayable? If getting him out of the game bothers you that much, you can use him with a Shivogod.
I think you missed the point entirely here. Underdog is intended to use with epics. It buffs epics. If you use underdog with them it makes your monsters a whole lot better… Draco’s SS isn’t even comparable, they do very different things.
