F2P for life 
And this dude and lemon is living proof that you dont have to whale to be among the best
Its really simple
So im like sure whales might have an advantage but that gap is not as big as you seem to imagine
Lemon account originally belongs to another player. Who was a whale and had all the top mythics at the time. So your point is entirely wrong
Untill duck is gay can make a comeback as f2p then there is no point in continuing this discussion
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Buddy i did it with 0 mythics twice the only player in the history of neo to this achievement. Get your facts correct
btw i shouldnāt hv joined the debate anyways, u guys are the real GOATS bye gn guys.
I did it when almost every player had atleast 3-4 and the top were spamming +7. I did it twice not once. The only player in the history of neo to do so
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92 games over the course of three days (averaging a bit over 30 per day) is still less than before. You also mentioned that losses set you back more and thatās exactly the problem. Pvp is more competitive when itās more focused on winrate.
Iām not blind to the advantages for p2ws, but you are blind to the advantages you had as a p2w in the past with all the broken legendaries you had. F2p couldnāt realistically get all those legendaries because there were much fewer free gems and no fortune shrine.
There were also three f2p top 1s since the change. Itās not that rare for f2p players to reach top 3/top 5 and we usually have several f2p in the top 10 each season. The truth is that f2p are actually more successful now than they were in the past.
Thatās actually a perfect example for me. The reason he never got top 10 in the current system is because his teambuilding sucked lol. Have you seen his teams? Theyāre really bad. He was successful in the previous pvp system because the game was easier and he could rely on broken strategies that didnāt take skill.
Thatās exactly my point. In the previous system prior to mythics f2p could mimic the top players team entirely because the game allowed them. Now its almost impossible for a player to mimic your entire team.
I remember back in the day i player against my team millions of times against different players monster by monster
They couldnāt, speaking as someone who was F2P since the beginning and targeted top monsters. I could very consistently get top 10 but it was clear to me I was at a disadvantage compared to the spenders who had a larger pool of monsters to build around and ALL of the strong mythics rather than my handful.
Anyway, guys please take this to DMs because itās incredibly tiring to scroll through 50 messages of the game achievements you want to pat yourself on the back for. You can see multiple people in the discussion basically saying theyāre bored of it
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Hereās a team lightgm made about a year ago. No wonder this guy couldnāt get top 10 in the new system when his teambuilding was so bad. And this guy was getting top spots back in the day? That just shows how old players who were only good when neo took less skill canāt compete now if they never adapted.
They donāt have to mimic a team with 7+ mythics because they can still get top spots without doing so. Since the pvp change, weāve seen three f2ps get top 1, a bunch of top 3 placements from various f2ps like ACEH, crismond/rezpector, devilmoon, dracarys (I think), kingstun, swabbie, etc., and f2ps get top 10 every season.
Edit: Iāve said all I wanted for now. Kd posted his message while I was already mostly done typing this reply so I just sent it anyway. I donāt have anything to prove to @Mr.X in particular so I wonāt be DMing him.
Give us all the same account and some 1v1s and Iāll shaft you both
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Lemon has a point, if the argument is ābest decision makerā there are like ten guys virtually tired for it.
Is it really: one of the best decision makers, with one of the best collections, with a LOT of free time on weekends? Might just be.
This discussion is for best overall pvp player, and everyone has different criteria for that. For me itās decision making, teambuilding, and pvp accomplishments and I place different weights on each depending on the circumstances. So that would also encompass the teams/strategies used, willingness to grind, and the level of skill when you are grinding. Other factors would be collection size relative to your competitors at the time and the different eras of pvp. The bigger the collection, the more impressive your accomplishments need to be.
Overall, Iād say lemon and I are around the same level. Itās hard to make a direct comparison because we have very different priorities when it comes to pvp and excel at what we focus on.
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Nice one Ducky. Gonna start calling myself a goat too. @Unown you should too. And @INA-Archer. Anyone else wanna be a goat?
I guess that settles it, everyone is a goat meaning no one is a goat meaning letās find new stuff to talk about 
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Yeah! Next topic. Who is the mod goat ?
Joking!! Letās not do that 
I would say Gary, that one time he was a mod for few minutes
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Gary was a martyr for us all 
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