I just got slaughtered by one of the coolest teams I've come across. Care to share some of your PvP stories? (Part 1)

@Mr.X is just mad because @IamSu kicked him from Z19 after he was literally bragging about how big his brain is.

Any debating the above statement will result in actual screenshots from Line being posted in the basement thread.

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Gary that kind of talk should be in the basement already.

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You guys will ban me if I tag people, I want to make sure @Mr.X sees my post @Killerdog

Z19 Gang Gang Til I Die

Haha that’s a good point, bit of a flaw in the rules over there.

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@LemonSqueezy Thanks bro!
I think hellfox is so strong because he has the skill of rebirth and double retribution.
It seems to me that it becomes to be a big threat when he rebirth mechaviathan or lavaronix. It allows these to use the skill of team turn again and its hard to me that I block!

@Killerdog I knew you were about that life all along

Absolutely. I’ve been using that combo for so long! I’ve got a few things before to make sure it happens, but i’m amazed Hellfox doesn’t get used more often by players. Especially with the payback passive. Anyway, you’ve beaten me in the past as much as i’ve beaten you so looking forward to more games!

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In that case you can ping here with a link to the basement.

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Please provide screenshot.

Because i refused to rejoin your clan after invitation you guys got mad. And please dont tag me in your b/s if you know nothing.

I got su and vegta guy invite but refused to join as you were abusing mods power in line.

If neo only dont delete pm i could show conversation.

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Lol ok you got it @Mr.X check the basement for reference :joy:

And don’t go flagging it like a ■■■■■ ■■■ ■■■■■

Basically just proves that the second OoO is the biggest part of the problem and not the sleep immunes. I havent seen anybody complaining about Stratus + Sleep immunes. Its the stupid second OoO that cause the most of the frustration.

Well I wouldn’t call that proving anything other than being a display of what people are getting so afraid of. It’s like how people almost always kill Delugazar the first chance they get, they’re scared of what it can do, even if there is a better target at the time. I think people aren’t complaining about Stratu + sleep immunes because the people out there abusing OoO + sleep immunes are all using Oniblade for the double OoO. If you’re going to abuse it then why not go for the option that allows you to do it twice!?! Also, Stratu is limited and not many have it.

I flagged nothing nor do i care.

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As you stated above: Oni was trash for a long time because he became dead weight pretty soon after you used the OoO. Bunker and Gyo are both relatively old monsters, so the combo is neither new nor any kind of innovation. All of this stuff became a problem when people started to abuse the second OoO.

@Unown put it very well when he said:

Sorry I didn’t mean to dispute that. The second OoO is what makes Oniblade viable and it’s very strong. However, it was you saying that the second OoO is the problem instead of the OoO + sleep immune which I was disagreeing with. I think if teammates didn’t stay awake with OoO then Oniblade having two OoO moves would be totally fine. There are enough counters to OoO and the “stalling” is not very useful if only Oniblade is staying awake.

Second OOO should be used after 1st OOO has finished or if all monsters are awake already

Wuhahahahahah gg! Sorry for your disconnection, I have been very lucky!

FU OOO gg!

GG. I was exhausted after our first battle. Didn’t expect to win when I saw your army, and our 2nd battle proved the expected result.
I am just 4 gems away from rolling the 3rd pack. I guess this is my last time to grind.

I see your point but I would prefer to solve the problem by changing the Way Onis SS works. If you want to solve by changing the way sleep immunity works you have to be very careful because you will actually need a lot of monsters and while I truly hate the Oni OoO combos, I still think a nerf should be the absolute last way to solve a Problem. So when I have to choose between nerfing one monster or nerfing quite a big number of monsters, I‘ll go with the first option. I played around a lot with the sleep immunes and for the majority it’s essential to stay awake while you’re using OoO. So I am afraid this kind of solution would also hit the wrong guys.