Who do you think gave the suggestion that the devs used to nerf prixis just two months ago? Back then it had an even larger range of targets in the frontline.
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So exactly what I meant to say. Itâs your suggestion back so that nerf donât affected Prixis at all. I mean affected 0.5%.
amma be honest with you, ur team is trash without that char
Prixie is fine, killing one 1 monsters doesnt equate losing, binding someone or knockbacking them back at that speed is
you can play around prixie with team building to deal with her, you literally need to run a counter to deal with char
There is a difference here
one way i dealt with prixie is to run something faster than her + an ap. that way she can loses the focus. only way to deal with char is to simply outspeed her with something that can kill her. hence why people (like you) ran glaci
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Agree very much
There are several monsters/strategies that can counter Charybdia, thereâs literally one or two monsters that can counter Prixies and with Uniceraâs the AP strategy will get you in trouble if you run it. Rework Prixis and other previously released OP mythics first and then I think we can all agree to a Charybdia nerf, but right now nerfing it before the others just because many players have it itâs extremely disrespectful with all those that saved for a long time for anniversary. People with a huge collection know that Charybdia will not make a difference to their teams as they have enough FL knockbacking monsters to replace her, exactly as it was before anniversary, and Prixis is the one making all that possible. Funny how Prixie is apparently not so important but all top players keep running her. I hope that the devs can see how this hss become some sort of âthe poor shouldnât be allowed to have a chance against the richâ kind of situation.
Also some players suggesting using Megalodragon as a viable counter to Prixis is completely ridiculous, that thing will end up as a dead weight more often than not.
Exactly, you want to take away the one monster helping a lot of f2p players right and brought a little bit of hope to those who canât afford to spend a fortune to build a massive collection. Nerfing her will only punish the one side of the story and we all know that.
lol . youâre funny, how do you think I played when I didnât have Charybdia. Make sense of what youâre saying. My team is trash only if I canât use my orca and my angelion, which are the best monsters I have with novadrake
This is acctuly wrong the community thrives on having 85-99% speed fls or atleast did about half a year ago when i used to run megalo. More often than not there was a AP or a glaci or whatever for him to target
Personaly in case of no targets i did have a monster with sendback so i could just remove him from fl and send him to end game were you often find a rock or something if needed for him to target
I run unicera to counter why donât you guys? Cause u all are habituated to use same sakura, Prixis,plum fl and donât have proper counter to char so making fuss over it. Again to all there is live banner of unicera go get yourself and donât argue anymore.
Again this bullshit is used as an argument. âCanât nerf Soral because F2P players saved to get itâ, âCanât nerf Chary because itâs the only hope for F2P playersâ. Listen to yourselves, itâs absolutely ridiculous 
I guarantee you guys there will be one F2P player for every S+ monster in the game that saved for it and they will suffer the consequences of a nerf. Then on the other hand there will be a guy that spent $2k to awaken a mythic that gets nerfed and he gets âscrewed overâ.
For PvP to be somehow balanced, tweaks need to be done from time to time. New monsters will be released that will shift the meta.
Iâm telling you it doesnât matter whether you are a whale or a F2P, nerfs will happen and they will hit everyone because itâs the nature of these games! Itâs virtually impossible to predict how future monster releases will affect the meta because the top players will figure out combos that Devs didnât think of.
We all accept it when we play the game, save for monsters and roll for them, yet itâs âsurprise Pikachu faceâ every time when a necessary nerf happens.
Itâs useless to try to compete about who âsuffers moreâ. You guys need to accept the nature of gacha games and stop being in denial!
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Thank you for effin saying it
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Thereâs no other way to look at it. You are telling me that only nerfing Chary is a legit solution? If they do so, I can only presume that devs are just waiting for more players to spend a fortune on Prixis to only then nerf her. I think thatâs whatâs bothering a lot of players here and itâs certainly whatâs bothering me. Maybe you find itâs an acceptable gaming model, but if thatâs so, the devs need to be more open about it so players know what expect and make their decisions accordingly.
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A Fast FL General Piercing Sniper who can easily disturbs strat or synergy of the team, Prix is ridiculous.
This is what we agree to avoid in the game.
Same with Chary, but the problem is only the Raw Twin KB, which is insane. Sheâs too versatile with that.
Strong Gravity Field front line monsters sounds good too.
@Cesar @ewertonrodrigo
Duck nailed it here. I havenât had trouble against Prixis all year because so what if it kills one of my monsters then is out of play for a very normal 110TU. You donât need to counter it, just take the hit and move on. The power it actually offers is the way it sets up / protects 70-85% speed monsters to help them get a turn. If that monster has strong controlling/sweeping power on the first turn then thatâs what makes the setup super powerful, because together they do a lot to the opponent.
Iâm glad thereâs a voice here to stand against a Chary nerf. Clearly lots of players will be unhappy if it happens. However, I think itâs very important we are on the same page about how these monsters work and where the balance problems are. I think we should also separate the issues of Chary, Prixis and Nyx (whyâs Nyx even keep getting brought up??).
The Devs asked for counter ideas to Charybdia. What Iâm seeing most is people say gravity field, with Skeleviathan speed buff mentioned too. Is there anything else we could have to counter it?
No? Where in my message did I say this . My point was solely about F2P being used as an argument. Itâs so stupid honestly.
More open? How exactly? The only way I could imagine it would be a PTS server like in Overwatch where the upcoming buffs/nerfs/monsters could be tested beforehand by players so that devs could get better data and make more informed decisions.
But itâs not going to happen because first of all, it would require a lot of effort and resources and also gacha games donât work like that because the business model is completely centered around making new powerful monsters a lot of money. And it makes more sense business-wise to not be transparent about everything. This is what you have to accept when playing these types of games. Therefore itâs better (in my opinion at least) to not take these things too seriously.
As an F2P (a little fish too once every year) and owner of Charypdia, Iâm okay with a nerf but I really hope she doesnât lose Bind+ ability. Iâm okay with her boring 60 TU sweeping move to change if that is the one people hate most.
One of the moderators say Prixis is no threat, just leave her and nerf char 
. You know what even if char is nerfed, Prixis will provide other mons same setup as she is providing to char now like for sakura,vixen etc. So char is not problem but Prixis is . Whatever you guys tells, Devâs listens so itâs fine for us.
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Man this thread actually took a good bit of time to read through. Crazy how passionate people can be either for or against something, but either way, itâs also good to see people coming together.
@NMEduck @Exu @Killerdog , the three of you have made great points and good, well thought out statements, and I would agree with all points that have been made. As far as Charybdia goes, could always put a 100s restriction on Bind+ or something along with a speed nerf or something⌠I dunno.
To everyone else advocating against Charybdia being nerfed : youâre wrong.
Thatâs all.
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I donât know why you keep talking about Prixis, a monster that can only gain a slight advantage or has no goal. The root of the problem lies in.Charybdia, she is the monster who can gain great advantages by acting, and this is the focus we should discuss and adjust.