Sensible AP spammers use more than one sweeper though and the APs shut down stealth very easily and actually make their attacks more useful in this way. Plus as I said, unfortunately most stealth teams get hammered by everything else unfortunately 
Bloom in particular is tricky because it gets shielded before the sneak attack
Did I not tell you that Rune is not a waste of a slot? He is good in legend form as well. Glad you came around
Congratulations on getting such a cool monster!
I still kinda stand by my first impressions. As
I said in the original thread, it can be pulled off but I’m not sure it warrants the effort. As I said in this thread, I think sometimes it’s better to keep lords out and not fuse, as it can feel like a waste and sometimes the charged legend is better with the protector backing it. It’s situational I guess, but I wouldn’t build with the mind that the strat revolves around Runedragon getting the fusion off. It’s definitely a cool monster and fun to play with outside of ranked though.
Wish I understood buddy.
I myself am feeling the makers just what horny rich guys to play the game
So they made this Baby dool monster Lemon who comes and sleeps all your monsters then twice dreamhunts then, only way out is Purify or poison gas
Lol, it would be risky if you were able to hit the protector you want. But in the current situation it’s very far from being anything close to risky:
1.) Most APs have a high damage move or some kind of annoying revenge/passive
2.) Hiding behind a wall of protectors while your double protected from the God of RNG turns the match completely against your opponent. You’re denying him the basic right to hit the monster he wants. It’s a strategy game. It’s like playing chess and you’re allowed to play as usual and your opponent has to make random moves.
3.) The nerf to AP Spam was almost undone by the special rocks. Bomb/Flocc and Musahoid have a good laugh at almost every Anti AP Spam strategy
4.) It’s super low cost high reward. You can build a viable FL with basically nothing but Duscy Bloom and these annoying new Rocks. Plus a two cost monster like Goldoid creates more value than some legends with his endless revives.
We‘re close to the pre nerf era and the main problem is still the same. RNG in protector targeting
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Some good points there. Tbh the stealth meta is generally too slow to be viable in PvP. Most mons are around 60% speed and they get wrecked by most other meta types.
Twiggy is dead. It’s got too much deadweight already and the DR protector completely nullifies it.
Raw is easily the best option as it’s more versatile, but then you‘re bound to have monsters that aren’t completely raw and the AP spammer can just target the raw mons.
I agree the RNG targeting is still annoying. Tbh the devs could have left raw the same and just given is targeting. Bloom duscy AP teams are still very prevalent. It’s just not always a complete team of AP spam, but that generic FL are pretty common.
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It’s risky because we got a lot of monsters that can hit the sweeper and bypass the protector.
Leaving 3 protectors on the field.
C’mon you said it is a sacrifice of 2 slots in the original thread. Now you say the legend is fine on its own and even acknowledge that Lordsreign is sometimes better kept on the field with the legend. Recognizing the value of both monsters…
They are not a sacrifice of 2 slots. Very different to your first impressions. Nothing wrong with changing views as my first impressions of monsters have changed many times…
So knights have raw moves since they can bypass everything?
Completely agree the only ones that still say AP Spam is ok are the AP Spammers itself that mushashoid rock has to go and or buff twig making guardian excecute nullify revenge and make it 5 times use again nerfing it was the dumbest move Devs have made since i play this game imo
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I’m tired of having to justify everything I say or have said in a previous post that gets dug out 
I cba to explain what I thought then and how that relates to what I think now
My first post was posting with a happy tone to celebrate your new found like for an awesome monster that I liked from the get go. I was excited to see you were enjoying your Rune dragin and to be honest wanted to celebrate it with you.
It’s a bit like when I finally started to like Nulltron and RAW and people would post and say “glad to see you are enjoying your Nulltron now” although I still hate her from time to time😊
Your reply caught me offguard and was surprised with what you said. So yes my last post was written in frustration. Sorry.
I think if Twiggy was more versatile, he could be a counter to AP spam even without buffing Guardian Execute back.
Two changes I can think of is having him get Payback Killer instead of Soul Shield, some sorta Deathstroke instead of Demon’s Glare and RAW Bloodshed instead of Bloodshed.
If the Devs make Twighoul actually useful in other contexts, more people will use him and that could help fight AP spam
You’re better than that Saitama, I gave you four very good reasons why it’s not risky and you reply like I never wrote a thing. It’s completely understandable that you want a strategy you like and you had some great success with to be risky. However I strongly disagree. And yeah we have some monsters than can bypass protectors but as lemon said raw requires you to give up protection which makes it easy for the AP Spammers to target them.
I think this whole situation proves that the original problem with AP Spam wasn’t sorted. They tried to nerf it hard but only cured the symptoms not the disease. Then they came around with the special rocks who almost reverted the nerf and were back at the point where the original problem stands out again: The RNG Advantage you gain by using AP Spam.
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I think you misunderstand my stance on the monster or perhaps I didn’t explain it well. Apology accepted.
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The RNG and that bloody Pink whale imo
Running the low cost rocks means you can run more 16 cost high quality mons later on too
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Why would I reply to each point when I already agreed with some of them earlier?
I can’t be brothered arguing about everything I disagree with.
I have complained about the RNG more than anyone. I’ve said from day 1 that I should be able to target any protector I want with any move I want when multiple protectors are on the field.
I’ve complained about Goldoid a lot as well…it’s a completely BS monster that should have never been created. I’ve felt like that from day one.
You replied to my RAW and Sneak attack suggestion by drawing attention to the protectors themselves. My focus was on monsters that completely bypass them.
I felt like you replied to me like I wrote nothing.
I actually agree with a lot of your points but pretty tired at this point.
Also in regards, AP spam. I haven’t been using it most of the time. It always in the back of my mind though waiting to come out 
Most entertaining strat.
I’m gonna add a few points to be fair. I admit that the payback revenge protector was a blow to the AP spam nerf. Simply because it wrecks twiggy.
The devs were well aware they over nerfed AP spam that’s why they released some new rocks to keep it viable and not completely dead.
They haven’t balanced out Goldoid and they need to fix the RNG. I honestly believe those two things will make it perfect.
THE RNG ALONE will fix almost everything.
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Let’s take a look at the bypassers:
Sui - Best monster in the Game. However access is very limited.
Raw: Common but high risk because unprotected
True Hit: High TU, Can’t even one shot bloom
Sneak: Non meta and slow
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No more arguing about the bypassers. Time to make anti AP spam teams.
I might need to wait for the special rule to finish though. I think that is part of the problem because it limits some combos. It’s funny how AP spam threads often get opened during special rule PvP.