Hello Hello Hello!!!
Hope everyone is doing well, I know the holidays are coming up and thought it would be a good time to post this.
With plenty of knowledge in the forum it can be fun trying new idea’s and asking for help to develope teams. I personally like to play counter teams, basically when a new OM comes out there is a rush of new teams try to use such ARKs. It can be a bit boring to see the same thing over and over again, but when an Idea catches on, it’s always easier to find a counter. The trick is finding the counter to the new BIG thing and building a team that does well overall.
I won’t sugar this and say this is a team available to everyone, nor can I say that I will ever really be able to post something Like that here. The new ARKs are powerful and need power/strategy to consistently do well.
So I will begin posting my counter teams near the end of each week (this one comming a bit sooner as I won’t be playing as much the next few days), I would like to state that these are from my own play experience and your mileage may vary.
The current weeks OM has been Shadowstalker a resilient, control creature that can be difficult to down, especially if it’s a mirror match. So on to the counter Line-up.
Now right off the bat you’ll notice that I have the same starting Lineup as most shadowstalker setups. Well it’s becuase it is a solid lineup. The control that scapegoat gives is phenominal when pared with stun skin units. Not too mention gremknight’s knockback ability is great for setting the stage. But the big thing is getting them to Kill your chopperbug or at the very least get around their scapegoat without triggering the TU stun.
Shisagaurd is the counter against shadowstalker, why you ask? Mysticbane. A few hits and down goes the opposing teams opening heavy hitter. The rest of my team has been a bit of a stample for me. Currently it works well and gets the job done pretty consistently. From stun teams, to the flavor of the week teams it just does well.
To the breakdown:
This portion being where you get setup by removing threats or just forcing them to stun up, so you can get to smashing away. Whether it be with hasted chain claws, xenowinds, or mysticbanes.
In the even shadowstalker makes it this far, and honestly it happens quite a bit, here is where the fun may/or may not happen. If their shadowstalker is still alive, it needs to die or be knocked back prior to getting this far. Scapegoat is still a go to tool, this time pointing to moss golem. Why the arkwing? Beastbane and he is elementless, if you get haste on him he can wreck several different kinds of arks. but the ral fun begins when you use any of arkwings heavy hit abilities, and then can siesta. If Arkwing is at the rear, he usually(not always mind you) will creep up giving you Arkwing into mossgolem again, simply rinse and repeat using dreamhunter as you can, and keep scapegoat active when possible. Risky heal is definitely situational and you need to learn when it will benifit you the most.
This being one of my favorite setups (for now anyway until scorpiniox is released) becuase it sets the stage for a nice explosion, and lets face it we all love a good three-for-one. More importantly when minespider dies that vegi can sweep in and bane pretty much anything of your choice (more than likely)
Goldhorn sweep attack
Snowja sweep attack
Raioh haste, and stun gift
Omega sweep attack and no gaurd
Angelon sweep, haste, and healing
Now then, this entire portion is geared towards a HUGE finish. basicaly between raioh and angelon, you should be able to get a solid charcostun stun out thereand use a no defense+haste omega to pick ofthose coming off of stun.
Love him or hate him he is a solid anchor, I am interested in finding a new finisher though.
Hope you all found the read interesting or at least noteworthy lol.
For now I’ll catch you all later, and I’ll be updateing this with a new counter team come the new release of gearhound.
edit: O, and Merry X-MAS!!!
Merry Christmas to you too! And thanks for taking time to write this counter team. Here are my two cents.
I have tried Shisaguard in many battles and found his mysticbane is very weak against Shadowstalker. It may require 5-6 mysticbanes to kill it. I don’t know whether this is a bug or Shisaguard is just too weak. And Shadowstalker can easily counter it by casting Scapegoat, especially on Mossgolem which is an Earth Ark.
And the tanks seem to be placed too close to each other. Shadowstalker is tankish, and is likely to survive longer than Gremknight, Shisaguard and Arkwing. Hence you may get Shadowstalker + Mossgolem + Barry, which does not deal much damage at all. Vegitiger is likely to be surrounded by two tanks as well, though it can deal better damage. It may be better to replace one of the tanks with a haste caster. This build is also going to have a headache against opponent’s Mossgolem as it lacks a strong Fire hitter.
Opponents usually put their Shadowstalker at the beginning. I do too, and put it along with a stun skinner and a mine spider. The success rate of time bomb is 99%, except if opponent’s Arkwing acts before my Shadowstalker, or if Arkwing got multiple bonus actions. This combo can easily get rid of opponent’s Shadowstalker, though it can be easily countered by opponent’s Gremknight’s knock back.