What did you get from your Eggs? (Part 1)

So you are just telling me that I need to accept every unlucky hatch without questioning if actually something wrong?

So you are saying trust the math, the rest is a matter of luck.
Good. I approve that.
But why always me? You are in the belief that exist good faith in all this but I am not in the same belief.

So why making an acceptable hatching window?
For preventing hatches being excessively maneuverated, grant a clear interval of chances, making spending reliable.
You won’t find a mythic in first 6 packs, sounds very fair to me but you have a clear interval on when that would happen.
With open chances is too easy do things in the shadow.

The cost of an awoken mythic will be between 1200 and 2240 gems. Guaranteed.

In fact. they did it.that novice egg pool is.isn’t ironic?
My suggestion is floating probability. which is not excessive.

Because your comprehension of it all is wrong that you’re misidentifying the average and expected results. DonT you’re a nice guy and I’m sure you’re good at doing your job. However, your approach and conceptualisation of the maths around hatching is quite clearly from the wrong angles and flawed. I’ve tried to identify where you’re going wrong both mathematically and in the concepts but in our multiple discussions about this I’ve never been able to get us on the same page. Please just accept that going for 1% and 0.75% drop rates is horrific and leads to huge variance which may mean lots of gems wasted and frustration. Don’t let your mind jump to conclusions about the numbers be wrong, accounts bugged, etc.

I want to be crystal clear. I absolutely would like to see a form of guaranteed results or pity timer in the game. I hate gambling. However, this is a separate issue to what I’m discussing with DonT which is about whether the game is giving the correct results from the hatch rates shown in the game. It’s DonT’s maths which I am disputing, not whether big spenders should be rewarded properly for buying gems.

Unfortunately, ZigZaGame is going to do a system which is most profitable for them but still retains players. I guess they’ve decided that means no guaranteed results or pity timer.

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In which way? 2240 would be the maximum you can spend to awaken a mythic, minimum 1200.

I see that as a clear way to identify if there is something going on because if I hatch regularly a mythic every 12-14 packs then something is off.

I do expect to be 6-14 very rare results, 7-13 rare results, 8-12 uncommon, 9-11 common.

Clear.

I can understand because I saw a lot of powerful monsters and I was save my gems.

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This approach to it is very wrong, from what I can tell. You’re expecting the mythic hatches to come evenly spaced, with a “normal distribution” around the average of 10 packs. Take a look again at my breakdown of the chance to have 1+ mythics in 1-30 packs. What’s created is not a normal distribution curve. It’s a line that starts off increasing fairly quickly (7.25% with the first pack) but then diminishes as it goes. This is a very different graph to a normal distribution with the bell curve.

I know only that I opened 38 packs for a single Momo, I’ll leave the math to you then.
From my point of view is pure BS. :man_shrugging:

Idk about all the math everyone is doing , but I constructed a RNG egg hatcher n I definitely got 1 mythic in ~ 120 eggs or so via simulation .

I can so understand Dont’s concern as someone who simulated it for a large number of tests. 1 in 360 eggs so did not happen to me lol .

I tried that too and the results are very different from Neo :man_shrugging:

I can second this statement but I’m.not worried cos I never get anything good in neo :joy::joy: I’m used to it

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That’s the problem, if is pure luck should be the same principles no?

But the choice was urs to spend money on every banner . U can restrict to.monsters u want n cause less pain to urself

I am seriously thinking to stop totally. Is really dishonest.

If u feel so , u should cos all this complaining will take u nowhere

That’s the point, is like talking to the wall and having around who wants to convince that you are wrong when is under everyone’s eyes.

Their side of argument cannot also be ignored. They believe numbers are right n it might be right .

Instead of proving the odds , u could fight for mythic guarantee at 10 packs

I understand you.bro.
But arguing about probability is useless. You don’t have any direct evidence to prove that your probability is manipulated. This is the problem.

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Right now I have no strength to fight back. I am tired of being abused.

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Is enough that you believe me right now.

To be honest, I hate things like gambling. If possible, I hope the shrine can be reset 1more time. The egg pool will add a floating probability. This is what I hope.

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