Hi guys.
I wanted to discuss a subject that seems very interesting to me, does the skills surpass the count or is it the other way around?
by count I mean the quantity of awakened mythics (I will exclude legends here because the context requires it).
I had a discussion with a group of people, who think that the best players are the best only because of their accounts (awakened mythics) and not their skills. There is even someone (that I’m sure you know ) who said that Loki has better skills than Duckbut as the latter has a lot more myths that is why he is better and I made him understand that it is false but he insists on this path. him (another person) took the example of me by telling him that I got a top 50 without using any mythics and he told me that I got a top 50 without using a mythics and he m He just said that my account was deleted and that it was thanks to my account that I did that. I said ok but I said to take an example from the 2nd, 3rd and 4th best players of this season by telling them that they are f2p but they didn’t respond to that.
so I would like to know see their opinion is what your opinion is, does having several mythical monsters automatically make you a better player than those who have less or not, or it’s 50/50 between the number of myths and skills.
Personally, I remained convinced that even if I gave them Squinty’s account he would have no chance of really beating me.
No, it certainly doesn’t. Once, I met someone in pvp who had a ton of awaken mythics, but they had no synergy at all (Asmodia and Lemon together, by example). I’m not a top pvp player, but a simple water-poison combo (Tagosenshi and Atlantyrant) crushed their team to dust.
It’s a mix of both. I’m currently at the top because all the players who have skill at a similar level to my own don’t have large enough collections to challenge my consistency and all the players with large enough collections don’t have the skill/motivation to be much of a threat to me.
I mean, squinty’s account is pretty big lol. I think whoever you’re talking about would be able to beat you if they had it.
That’s a tough question. Personally, I think having a larger collection makes you a better human being, but I’m still looking into what relation it could have to one’s skill in the game.
I think that @ToNdEuSEnCaRtOn will not agree with you, I do not see anyone else but it is literally the definition of what would be the game if everyone was using his head more, despite his good account without his tactics he is always good but not too much because constrained with a good account but without real strategy (I said Can be nonsense here)
I think it’s a little confusing in my mind but I see what you mean and it still makes me quite skeptical, I doubt it’s just because of the extravagant count to beat a top 1 player a good legendary team is quite sufficient, certainly understand that the facthaving a lot of mythics can give wings to a lot of people but I really doubt that it’s enough, if you have no skills you can’t beat someone competent with or without mythics.
yes it’s true you can have a lot of things but if you do not know using them you can not do anything, it’s also because I can see the enemy team is not good because, in the end they will end up copied to a competent person
some, but that doesn’t mean he will agree, it’s ok player much more focused on strategy, he himself said it once I don’t think he is capable of putting the collection to the same level as the skill
That might be why he’s choosing to claim success is all about the account people have. It’s easier to believe that rather than accept your own limitations.
This game is very hard to learn and play well. It takes a lot of time and stretches us all, meaning people reach a different limit. I like that about the game, but it also means it can become an awkward topic when ranking players because it’s not nice to classify people as “not very good at the game and never going to get better” or “only successful because their account is strong”.
The simple truth is that skill matters a lot but you’re restricted to a range of how successful you can be by how good your collection is. You don’t need a bunch of mythics to get top 10, but you need to have something that has a chance to beat very strong teams that are played well.
I’ve played against the top players over the last 7 years and can say with certainty that most of them play very well, making the “correct” decisions in battles. They don’t get there without having a good standard of play. To reach that performance I think it takes people quite a long time to learn, e.g. 1-2 years. I’m sure Duck can agree he took something close to 2 years before he got as good as he is now and that’s from doing 1hr+ PvP every day and always trying to perfect things.
P.S. Nobody should be hard on themselves for not getting super good at playing this game. It should be enjoyed, first and foremost. It’s tricky to play perfectly and only the most devoted players get there.
Thats true… Skill is definitely the top element, but then your collection will be your limit.
Im pretty sure ppl with big collection and play it competitively, almost all of them are really strong.
These guys hardly will tell us the knowledge because its essential for their competitive environment.
Knowledge is the key in this game.
Think it’s more about the knowledge takes years to develop fully. I could point out mistakes in lets say someones video but that doesn’t mean they’ll catch it immediately, maybe theyl’ll have to make the same mistakes 5, 10, 100 or more times to fully develop the “strategic” mind in question. That’s about it, more play time in certain areas (pve or pvp) the better you become.
Id want to also add a mini flex: I have an alt acc with 1 mythic atm and I got 90% wr at 80 wins last season, I’d say that’s pretty good. And yes, the acc is on highest matchmaking bracket (met lemon, gmagic, duck, loki and more top players multiple times over the past half a year), but I’ll keep the acc a secret for now.
exactly that’s my point, the opponent opposite can have ten mythics but if he doesn’t have good decision-making and he makes mistakes, I will see the error and I will make him pay for it , if you play by making mythical errors each time or not if the opponent opposite is good itwill benefit and win
Exact man
In general I always tend to think that skills are the strength of a player, despite my lack of mythics I do not generally have ever dominated by full mythics users because as you have said after two years of play my level in decision making really increased, I can Theory to face anything with my team yet it is not so strong, (I have already face many of the best players of the moment and I beat some)
I’ve played with a very poor account for 4 years and a good one for 3 years. I agree with those who say team building, decision making and knowledge trumps large accounts.
The one observation I have made is that these days it seems to be higher stats (or boosted stats) more often than not that can make a higher account seem overwhelming.
Ultimately though to consistently achieve high ranks you need a great car and an even better driver.
Yeah that’s definitely been the effect in the last 1-2 years. They shifted design to higher defence monsters a while ago and now we’ve reached a critical mass of them, especially because they’ve been pushing defence higher and higher with defence buffs on top of naturally good defence and even added HP boost on top of it too. If you meet someone with a strong team built with these monsters, you won’t stand a chance unless you’ve got monsters equipped to deal with it.
I think the effect overall is there’s a larger gap in power level between the top teams and the teams newer players have. So people can reach a point where they build a team that’s good enough to take on a lot of players but they’ve still got a way to go before they can compete with the top teams.
It’s a shame because for years I always said it takes 1 year of free playing to build a collection good enough to compete at the top level. Now it’s probably 9-12 months to compete at a decent level (top 200 or 100 ?) but more like 2 years to get really high.
