Rinmu ( Poll and Discussion)

Design

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PvP

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PvE

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How is the 3rd form better than the 1st?

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Really good UC and buffed pve content. It has that ammityrant move plus negation of revenge and a pushback for kills. As for PvP, I don’t know. The swift attack is useless and also the counter sleep is niche. The 51 tu reborn skill is good along with passives. The fourth skill bloodbite should be void to complement the negation of mirror or death revenge after reborn negation of passives for major buffed. Passives are strong with pushback and immunities to stun. Secret skill is good with reincarnators. Struggles against immunity to instant death buffed monsters.

As for stats, speed is low, poor HP and defence is bad. Prone to maneater.

Calling the cops if u use filter…

The design is so generic. She’s just a girl in bikini cosplaying a demon?

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One thing that makes her a mediocre is the fact that you can’t use her signature move sinful bloom against top mythics effectively. Death immunity like astra, thala,cinder directly ignore the move and entrance spammers like alice,vivi, tenguko,bridal,aello and others will immediately get the entrance effect.

I noticed this too. I think her entrance + SS is the only thing you will care about her moves

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Brida on steroids.

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We already have a little girl too sexualized

It is a demon in bikini

Another succubus to add to my collection. :roll_eyes:

This one looks like it will be a pain to face buffed in certain situations.

The moveset is actually pretty interesting. It can be used in a bunch of different ways. Especially interesting if you face a stun entry monster and you have a counter on your team. You essentially have a give turn lol. Rebirthing an enemy could be problematic too however if you use it with an auto poison you have a 51 tu sweeper. Only problem is the monster needs a kill. Plus with her pushing monsters with kills back you probably don’t want to kill those ones you pushed back.

i think she will be a niche monster. Her whole thing is countering monsters with kills. She doesn’t have much else to offer.

swift assisted blaze in 2025?

Hmm guys, I like her.

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I still think bridal’s entrance and skills are better.
May be they will rebalance it like it also nullify the entrance or will kill the mon completely.

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These Assisted blaze all skills should be removed from mythics honestly come up with something better for once

Sinful bloom is extremely strong in pve, as for pvp since were living in a entrance spam, revive, death immunity meta it lacks a bit, specially at higher levels

i would consider this monster as a S tier am not convinced that it is a S+ at the moment

Firstly, WTF is that artwork. @Dev_VKC Why is there a skimpy bikini on the first form where she’s a child?? There’s literally more clothing on the later forms. My SFW filter is doing the exact opposite of what I want for this monster. My game already looks like a bunch of weird little girls that overpower scary monsters, something I hate but mostly accept, but this just looks like an image taken from a dark corner of the internet.

The final form is also ridiculously uninspired. A girl in lingerie with a couple of horns stuck on and some generic looking wings. No artistic flair and zero effort, it’s what I’d expect a 10 year old with basic editing skills to create.

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As for the monster’s moveset… oh god, here we go again. Another mythic that I’m scared what it will look like when it gets the inevitable buff that makes the moveset ridiculous. Currently it looks almost completely hopeless. I’m amazed I’m the only person who has downvoted her for both PvE and PvP.

Swift assisted blaze is cool on a monster with high attack, I’m a big fan of that.
Counter sleep is also very cool, I’m glad to see it.
However, both are niche so we’re basically locked in on the main game plan here… sinful bloom to get a kill then bloodbite.

Bloodbite is not an exciting move for a mythic. It’s not low TU and she’s squishy with no defensive passives (only unmovable and stun immunity). So as a sweeper she’s lacklustre.

Sinful bloom I can appreciate that most people are not familiar with skills like Aethereon’s metempsychosis or Ammityrant’s sinner reborn so it’s not obvious until you play with it… this move is terrible! Entrance effects are really common so even though you negate a revenge there will be lots of monsters you do not want to kill with this. In many cases it also means you need to do a second attack to kill the enemy, i.e. wasting extra time. High speed enemies can be a problem for this reason. You could combine it with auto-poison, but then you’re making the counter sleep move useless. Sinful bloom is also restricted to only enemies with kills, which is a horrendous limitation.

In practice, sinful bloom is like a slayerbreak that you don’t want to use on certain enemies and is disguised as being lower TU but often requires some other attack that means it’s more TU overall.

So maybe the entrance is the selling point?
Well… yes it has to be and I reckon it is strong, but not as strong as you’d think. It will probably be super inconsistent. If you’re only pushing back one enemy then that doesn’t make up for the rest of the moveset being lacklustre. Bear in mind she also cannot do anything to enemies without kills until bloodbite, so she relies on teammates to handle them. Rinmu played in the mid-game to regain some control against an opponent that’s gone aggressive could be a serious alternative to using stun in this position, but I think people will find that the whole package here doesn’t match up to what other monsters do.

EDIT: When writing the above I thought her entrance didn’t push back the latest monster that got a kill so figured her SS was pretty bad and the entrance was weaker than it actually is. Coltraz corrected me below.

How did you arrive at that conclusion? It is simply not true. You probably tested it in the SCB test zone where the new legendary blocks her entrance.

In the pics below you can clearly see Dameule gets the first kill and then gets pushed back.


There is this little visual effect on her entrance which is cool.

Whoops, I wasn’t checking whether that was still on the battlefield. This test battle is stupid, you can’t try out G.F. Lotus’ survivor or slow effect nor Rinmu’s entrance or counter sleep.

Thanks for pointing that out

I have tested her out in pvp and have seen her in a lot of good teams too. You are way too harsh on her. She is the best 6th/7th slot comeback monster. Stuns at least two units for free. She also counters CW boss havely with her reset move. She is not a bridalith but a good monster nontheless.

There are some good points, but it’s not as bad as you think. As you said, its true potential in PVP varies depending on the other monsters you use, so if you consider your team build, its true potential becomes apparent. Most people use Entrance and Revival monsters in PVP, which is true, but you can also bait your opponent or, if you have a stun counter on the field, revive stunned monsters to take tactical turns. Also, when your opponent gains momentum and starts going for kills, the passive blocks them, so 1 kill count usually works. It’s true that it synergizes with Posion, and yes, it blocks the Sleep Counter. But it doesn’t only synergy with Poison. You can also use it with Cresendo or any Fast Sweeper.

@Dev_VKC The part that bothers me is why, in a meta with so many powerful monsters, does this monster have a assisted blaze ability? This is really inefficient and should be changed. Also, another issue is that Sinful Bloom is an instant kill. If a frontal damage killer like Morphean Bomb were used instead of an instant kill, it could target death immunity, and since that wasn’t the case, it was left eager to kill Astral with its own poison entry, lol. If you’re going to increase death immunity, increase the ability that counters death immunity