PvP Tower Results (Future?)

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For the last tower event I played every opportunity undergoing a terrible sleep schedule because I only had 30 energy (now 50) but from that event I lost 4 times before stage 45 and 16 times from 45-59 and 4 times to get to 60. 

 

During that time I only missed 16 energy of time and leveled up once effectively countering that. I ended the event with 60 stages cleared and 11 hours to spare. 

 

At the time of getting 60 stages I went from 920 to 690 place at 11:30 am AST. 

By 2pm AST      I was 720

By 5:30pm AST I was 746

By 7:30pm AST I was 772

By 11pm AST    I was 803      the closing of the event.

 

Even if the scoring ranking followed a first mover advantage that would mean a maximum of 920-690+803= 1033 received the reward monster at the end of the event. With a maximum floor of 84 for someone who won every match and never used any gems. This meaning non gemming players had a very slim chance of breaking the top 600 for an additional event monster, and don’t get me started on floor rewards.

 

Is 1000 people able to get to 60 floors acceptable? Should they increase the number of people who can get higher tiered rewards? 

 

As well this next event only has 4 days where the last one had between 4-5 days. (with several delays)

 

With the rise of more players and increased gemming population I hope free to play players have a viable opportunity to continue to clear 60 floors.

 

Especially now adding upgrading monsters into the mix, so far I’ve only got 1 +1 and it seems to have 3-4% cool down reduction across all abilities. If this is going to go to the alleged 15% then with each upgrade it would have to give less of a % each upgrade to front load it, ultimately being more balanced. Or is it “15%” that ends up around 30%. Once again an option to create more p2w teams and widen the gap, Should these effects be excluded from enemy team in PvP? 

 

Or will they use this as an opportunity to create fake “players” for us to battle with insanely lowered ability costs? How would we ever know? Not to mention the algorithm for finding out which players we PvP against is largely due to RNG and if you go against a level 100 with a team of legendary monsters you’re just going to lose which ruins your energy, given enough loses ruining your chance at clearing 60 floors. I know that on floor 4 I went against a team like that and I just laughed at how terribly balanced it was. 

 

I know that they’re not responsible for the scores because they have handed the power over to the players and they dictate who gets what but as soon as I got to 60 I stopped because it was pointless for me to push any more due to the unrealistic floor clearing reward gaps.

 

Also by overlapping events they are cutting down on our time we can use to get more of an event monster to upgrade it. It’s nice that they’re coming out with events one after another but they are not considering the opportunity costs to the free player, unless this was considered and promoted to influence more gem spending. 

 

I really enjoy the game, and I have told several friends about it and we enjoy it very much but if things get too unrealistic or heavily promote p2w, blocking out free player opportunities then I’ll just as easily leave with a heavy heart at what could have been. 

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Did you factor in rank ups? Because I ranked up twice back when I was doing the tower and refilled with gems twice. All gotten free of course. That got me to 82 or so iirc. Which was enough to snag 144

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I played free and ranked up once. Got to rank 700 or so. Every piece of energy used

I really disliked the tower event

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I only had 30  energy at the time so my level up only gave me back the time I lost.

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Tower was awesome

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For a paying player maybe

No offense, of course

I’m not saying either is better, I’m just saying the last event was bad for free players

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I think it was entirely possible to get the important prizes from that event even as a free player. You only needed to get to floor 60 for that. Not to mention getting to floor 60 would have placed you at a pretty decent spot in terms of overall rank as well which means that there would’ve been extra prizes included by just reaching that floor. The reason I’m saying this is that the difficulty for those floors were a bit lower than the 5th chapter final boss which can be beaten without using any legendaries whatsoever. 

As for the higher floors I’m not entirely sure since I didn’t attempt beating those with “non-paying” teams. The difficulty does increase drastically as you go higher in the floors so I am pretty sure a team without a single legendary wouldn’t have made it past floor 120 for example but even then you would have been top 30 if you reached floor 120 in that event (which means you get the best ranking prizes since you reached top 50 which is tier 1 ranking). I myself reached floor 169 and placed rank 3 but even then it was completely possible to go even higher without much difficulty, it just required more time and effort which I just didn’t really feel like doing.

That being said, everything I said was just a guess since I didn’t actually do the event using a team that had no legendaries. I will however record a game or two for the upcoming event at floor 60 and above using a “non-paying” team which I would define as a team with 1 legendary (since you could reroll until you get your legendary of choice even as a non-payer).

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The difficulty is increased greatly after floor 50, free players might not be able to get to floor 60 if they haven’t been playing this game for a while.

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Again, I disagree. I’ve also been through those floors myself lol. But there’s no point in arguing about this since neither side has actual proof. We’ll see what happens in the upcoming event.

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Well, one thing for sure is that the difficulty will increase as the levels get higher. As the difficulty increases, the strategies we can use are limited as well (Rexo, Last bite).

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There were a few on here complaining about being just a floor or two short of 60 when the last tower event was still active.

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Lol better reward needed

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Yeah, floor 60 is no joke. I started to lose matches around floor 70 or so sometimes, and I have a legendary and plenty of experience and have been playing since release

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How many super epics do you have?

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well last tower event I ended at floor 86, of course I lose couple times to get there. Now this event might be easier for me now because I finally got a last biter from the last festival egg but lets how this tower goes 

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The AI was definitely better in the tower event than any of teh online or offline chapters to date - never did silly things like timestrike on your tank etc. Given the souped up stats, if you met a ridiculous team above level 100+ then it was definitely much harder than any of the battles we can access now (ex PVPBeta)

Definitely do agree with the strategy point - only way you could win at levels 90+ was through the rexo and last bite at the end (along with warca 400s blast and death revenge)

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BlackfireZ’s assumption is correct. For new players who haven’t purchased any gem, they must have last biters to make it. For free players who have played for a long time, they can easily arrive at 60th floor with an ultra-evolved legendary and a couple of eipcs if using a correct strategy. If they have a couple of good super epics, it will be far easier.

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What time does the event start? It’s no longer in my news section for some reason

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It will be between 6pm to 11pm tonight depending on where you live I think

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As you can see, I was saying the same thing. The one legendary I will be using will probably be a last biter. It is also completely possible to obtain one without buying as you can reroll until you get it.