Well we all have seen what pengbot(and his evolved form) can do at ‘showdown at old corrolan’ .
And I personally think that in PvP and PVE it will really be omnipotent as with his ‘slayerbane all’ he would wipe out entire enemy line while ignoring their hold ground and with the combination of overwatch and desperate bite too he could really put a good show(unless he get poisoned otherwise DB would be partially and overwatch will be completely ruined)
But all that arises some question
Wouldn’t he be completely useless at higher levels in UC(unless the current enemy line has already wiped out half your team)?
He do have no stun immunity as weakness but still Isn’t just 1 kill by any monster being good enough for entire team to recieve a one way ticket to hell a bit too op?
Is he really the key monster of upcoming 1st anniversary egg?(just thinking out loud…)
Well all of it is just my opinion make sure to share yours while considering my questions.
And would anyone mind posting SS of pengbot’s moveset please, TY.
Well this time there is a difference and that is when nightrider uses DA the HG monsters are sure to survive but in case of “Thug Life Penguini” the HG is ignored.
And correct me if i am wrong cause i might as well be but i think there is another difference I.e. DA has limited floating damage value but in case of slayerbane the damage could get stacked(same as BT,BC,BF) by each kill the enemy line has made.
NR could make damage several times especially with TT, GT
Strike of Pengbot could be used only once and some of your team should die to make it happens. In addition if you kill monster with kills, his strike make less dmg, so it is not so obvious thing
He’ll be rather weak I think. His slayerbane all move is not what makes this monster strong its the 'Overwatch" ability allowing him to take turns when being damaged always securing a chance to desperate bite when he’s near death as he has Hold Ground or always a chance to use slayerbane if there are any kills made
Ok he can ignore hold ground but when your opponent sees it coming you can always prepare for it. if he’s on the frontline he’s putting a target bullet on his head to kill first cause if you don’t he will slayerbane you to heaven. It all sounds nice in theory but his giant weakness is poison. Not only will poison stop him from being able to use Overwatch (read skill description) but it will also kill him at Hold Ground.
With all the new poison monsters added, poison is definitely the stronger PvP meta currently. Taking that into account it’s gonna be hard to use him effectively unless he has a very high speed when coming in so it’s next to impossible to stop him from using slayerbane upon entering. (which would kill the idea of counterplay though)
My point was that NR’s DA damage could not be stacked but SA could might be.
With all due respect I mentioned poison being it’s biggest weakness in my review above but I don’t really think anyone would prefer to use it at start it can be switch placed and GT or GT as soon as he spawns. And Yes you defienetely are right about speed having a very high importance, let’s just wait and see then.
And it all arises a question that would poison gas/sleep activate overwatch cause stun apparently doesn’t and if someone uses poison touch would he get a turn due to overwatch or would his overwatch will immediately become useless?
I think poison touch will give him the turn but poison gas will not. also just to state the obvious, the developers when making these pre-set things and trying to let the new monsters shine will always shy away from using monsters that directly counter the monster they are trying to showcase.
It makes sense otherwise you can’t use the monster to its maximum potential but they should at least show it’s weakness in a battle where if you mess up for example he gets poisoned and just simply dies without any chance to counterplay
I´m worried that he can absolutely be ignored after he already fired his bomb and sit there doing nothing that fact plus the poison weakness will maybe cause him to underperform in both PvP and PvE which is quite sad considering he´s the anniversary monster
The way overwatch works is that it only activates if the damage isn’t residual. So while poison touch would trigger it because it has a base damage, the damage from poison itself would not. Also sleep and stun and whatever won’t trigger it because they do not damage him.
The way I see it he’s a bit like a mid game nightrider. If you set him up well then he can swing games on his own pretty much, but the downside is that you rely on him to swing it. Generally setups like these have a lot of supports around a few sweepers, and if you lose the sweepers you’re screwed. The difference between pengbot and nightrider is that nightrider can keep going, pengbot has one slayerbane all and that’s it. And no, they’re not going to kill anything else in the meanwhile. So really why would you try and replace nightrider when he does it better
If he has high speed then he’ll be very high tier nonetheless, if only as a midgame breaker. Currently there’s pretty much only rexkong and gaiawolf filling that slot, and not really very well in wolf’s case. The idea being he stops the snowball: he doesn’t have to sweep a huge amount of monsters, the fact that he can neutralise the tempo you get from winning the front line battle is really important.
Then again, that relies on him having relatively good speed.
Thanks for clearing my doubts about poison touch but Remember I did say he would be op in PvP ?
Tell me if this could work,
Once he uses his slayerbane all (easily obliterating the entire line while ignoring HG) then canniblize it(or wait for it to die) and just revive it using sacrifice revival or necromancy(if he is fast enough he can use his 1 hp in case of necromancy as an advantage and desperate bite a enemy to death) and then use slayerbane all AGAIN, and it would not be hard to setup either and with this at least half of enemy team would be killed just by your two monsters (you may need to provide supporting monsters if he turns out to be slow)
I know this strategy has a simple counter(stated by hidan above) and that is to kill the key monsters before they use their skill but isn’t that a counter to every strategy? So as long as this guy has at least a stun immune give turner and purifier the chances of this strategy working in my opinion is very high.
Well we all have seen what pengbot(and his evolved form) can do at ‘showdown at old corrolan’ .
And I personally think that in PvP and PVE it will really be omnipotent as with his ‘slayerbane all’ he would wipe out entire enemy line while ignoring their hold ground and with the combination of oversight and desperate bite too he could really put a good show(unless he get poisoned otherwise DB would be partially and oversight will be completely ruined)
But all that arises some question
Wouldn’t he be completely useless at higher levels in UC(unless the current enemy line has already wiped out half your team)?
He do have no stun immunity as weakness but still Isn’t just 1 kill by any monster being good enough for entire team to recieve a one way ticket to heaven a bit too op?
Is he really the key monster of upcoming 1st anniversary egg?(just thinking out loud…)
Well all of it is just my opinion make sure to share yours while considering my questions.
And would anyone mind posting SS of pengbot’s moveset please, TY.
Useless, as damage doesn’t stack per kill, but per monster that has killed.
If they only have 1 sweeper, the move will not one shot most high tier monsters.
No one knows
With regard to your post above mine. He would not be able to slayerbane all again, as you haven’t killed anything since (it’s slayerbane, not retribution), else you would have revived a different mon than penguinator, and too much time passes upon entrance. He definitely won’t be twinkiller Speed, so anything under 40 TU is pretty much guaranteed to obliterate him. Exactly how slow he is we will have to wait to see, but revived mons are very easy to counter if you don’t have a GT lined up (which are usually killed first anyways specifically to avoid shenanigans like this). DA spam is much easier to pull off, as it doesn’t require NR to die to spam it.
Stun immune GT and purifiers are all slow in the current meta and will be outsped usually. Stealth from stall teams also will avoid slayer damage.
It pretty much counters hold grounders and biters if used properly. Definitely not by itself due to its high TU moves. Overwatch is handy, but in this meta poison stops it from being useful.
@hidan i was pretty spot on about a last bite counter/check lol.
It also counters sweepers? Is everyone ignoring that? He can completely shift momentum of a battle if he gets his shot off. And it will go through hg like soulstealer. I think he’s really solid for pvp, but then again I’m not a top tier player.
