New PvP season and Special Rule.

LMAO

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What did you really expect. It’s going to be a festival of matches decided by whose ldief and Cynthia goes first.

Its true, just compare it

Fast Myth vs slow myth = Unicera/Carmillete vs Momo

Fast monster normaly just twin killer(conditional) monster. while slow monsters are mostly strong without waiting for a target and barely deadweight, That’s why they are slow.

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Last month Ed were a problem and in a center of discussion we create a special rule where you can’t use them to calm down people and forget about Ed , now mortilys is the main issue so we create a special rule where you can’t use him to calm down people

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It’s been suggested here in the past, but it’d be mighty more interesting if rules were variations in gameplay rather than simple restrictions. Encouraging use of certain monsters is better than forbidding the use of everything else.

E.g.:

  • no monster above 50% speed → all monsters below 35% speed get Rapid Entrance
  • no more than 3 types per team → if there’s three monsters with the same type in your field, they get +50% ATK/DEF

but really I feel like special rule should be mostly about introducing gimmicks that encourage players to play differently than usual, e.g.

  • Bronzeshells and Boxjaws get 3000% ATK/DEF boost
  • Your team gains Stun Immunity at the start of the match, and when less than half of the original formation remains, it gains Poison Immunity
  • You and the enemy receive 25% of MaxHP as damage every turn (Ć  la Dreaded Wave)
  • Monsters will die upon reaching 3 kills

these are dumbass suggestions I wrote on a whim, but the core idea is that I believe there’s tons of ways to bring players to change their strategies without being too restrictive.

Also, after implementing similar gimmicks, you could reuse them for brand new PvE events :^D

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Everyone has their own opinion. But I don’t think all of them are failures. I personally like this one (my opinion). But I dislike most of them. I hated the special rule of the season that just ended, I entered the game just to win the daily gem and left there, but I do think there are better things for special rules than many that have been put in place. That random team ranking was a disaster in my opinion. Something positive was that at least they eliminated the list of limitations of the special rule. But that’s why I created this thread, to contribute opinions and ideas.

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Not a good idea though. Mons loses value with this while some will be totally broken.

I think that would exactly what would make it fun!
If done well, monsters that are generally regarded as low-tier would become usable, and the inverse would happen for overused monsters.

I think special rule being a way to break away from the usual meta, providing a teambuilding challenge where you suddenly have to work with different tools than you’re used to, is what would make the rule really ā€œspecialā€!

How about comparing it with Vixen Grandprixgirl and Christine

The only valid person here is Kristin. You can beat vixen and prixis even though you are slower than them. vixen & prixis can’t beat One Carmilla.

And Kristin herself has a speed of 75% if I remember. And many people believe that the fast monster referred to here has a speed of 79% or more.

So now it’s my turn. Try comparing the strong myth monsters in Neo which have low speed (50>) vs myth monsters which have high speed (>79) who can do criticals more often in the first turn without help from specific Monster

OK, let’s just say you’re right here, you could probably just mention Kristin which is valid, But in slow myth monsters (50>) there are many like Kristin who can kill instantly like Carmilla, Momo, Hadeshoof, Medb, Fyrielle, Kirina, Bridalith , Rhine and many more . I’m 100% sure the monsters I mentioned above are very popular in this rule, both in FL, midgame, endgame

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:100: agree

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And additionally they add many counters for fast mons or we can say there are many counters for fast monster in game like nyx,flower and on the other hand other counter like megalo or green whale for prixis,unicera/carmillete for vixen, greenwhale/ water unicorn for Christine + they have restriction which slow mons mostly don’t have.

Yes, Unicera is another good example, it has 3 killers. (Anti Ap, Water & Payback) If you find a target, Unicera will really shine. But if you don’t find the target, this monster will be a burden on the team for a while.

This rarely happens to slow myth monsters, even ones considered weak like Lucyfele .Maybe only Honghua (slow myth) has an issue here

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dev, if the rule ends 13/14 days from the rank and you have to change the entire team again and play with the ranked team, many of us cannot play as much as to fine-tune the ranked team in less than 13/14 days it would be fine if there was only one rule with or without limitations and to be able to test the ranking team for longer

Maybe a rank with rules and another rank without rules and with limitations would be good.

Would it be doable to run one PVP system without any restrictions alongside another one with whatever rules are in place? Then maybe you can gather enough data to see what people prefer to play and take it from there.

Right now it seems most people are not enjoying these restrictions or special rules. They seem to mask the real issues and prevent people from fully enjoying the PVP experience.

If restrictions are in place to prevent OP strategies they should be addressed directly.

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I agree, maybe two rank rules and one rank without limitations @Dev_VKC
Pd:I do like the rules, they are fun

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VKC, I bet you’re loving facing Soral, Ldiafeth and Cynthia this pvp?

We need to be careful with speed brother.
The point of speedy is to gain control.
It’s not just about kill kill kill. I’m pretty sure you know it well since you are token master.

Speed = Control

Special Rule: whose 50 speed ones get their turns first

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The owl has 48 speed and was ahead of two 50 speed :joy: