Whyās that?
I originally thought Gabrielle was better, but then realised that sheās not doing anything particularly powerful on the battlefield even when she canāt be killed.
Apollonis has some decent damage moves that get the job done plus passives that help her survive a bit. Nothing special, but quite reliable.
Thatās what I settled on for them.
Believe it or not, I used to have him even lower. His entrance is a big liability so he has to be used in specific combos. Thatās ultimately why heās lowā¦ he is good in the right setup but thatās it.
For my reason, previous season we never Saw she is in full team. And I am believe in full team she Will get more feats Then apollonis.
But can u recheck If we compare again blacktitan. I am more affraid running blacktitan bcoz glaci, and blacktitan nearly not have any combo so far except retreat. White Titan elem is also good ,only few fire monster have sleep skill.
Outside of the recent auraleus frontlines weāve been seeing, blacktitan is much better than whitetitan for retreat combos because of its use in poison endgames and how it doesnāt give the enemy free turns
Letās say blacktitan better but no way the gapt is very far C tier v S- Tier.
Also I donāt like blacktitan elem bcoz most of poison monster is earth
^ What Duck said.
Weakness to Glaciaron is too specific to be an actual problem. The reason to use Whitetitan is for the entrance with it coming in 5th spot, sleeping an enemy and giving turn to something like Auraleus. It can then 50TU dreamhunt or true hit to become a bloodcrave sweeper. In the end-game it will most likely help the opponent kill your final monsters.
Thereās far more in fire and shadow, but that have been making it more of a thing in earth too in recent years. I think thereās plenty outside of earth that itās not a huge issue, just restricts you a little.
Okay I understand, maybe its juts my monster really support again white Titan more then black Titan.
Maybe. It depends what youāre going for, the two monsters are very different.
Blacktitan is really underused I think. It theoretically amounts to killing an enemy on entrance, killing another ~35s later then another 100s later sweeping with a blood move, all while setting up your poison teammates. Thatās after giving you true hit / retreat value in the FL too (or you could just play it anywhere without the SS). It, of course, is not totally reliable with the entrance, poison eater cannot kill tanky enemies and thereās team building required (e.g. no earth, no rocks, preferably low TU monsters before it in the team) but overall is a very good package. Ultimately, itās one of the best toxic entrance monsters and if we didnāt have tanky mythics then it would be really strong.
You can probably see how it has way more versatility and generic power compared to Whitetitanā¦ which is best used in 5th for specific combos.
the audacity
u do realize u can run blacktitan with gazer in end?
use the fact that his entrance kills ur teammantes to ur advantage
I have been using this with mine (till i get scorp anyway)
Does this mean it needs a buff?
Yes I have Scorpiogeist with gazer , and some poison earth monster with Throw stuff so big no for me use him (Too risky), unless I get some new fire poison.
also, in a way. Black titan entrance is better than whitetitan because it stops sleep + kills the highest tu
so either an opponent monster or a dead weight monster in ur side that has large tu will die from him
I still maintain that the list would be more accurate if there were 3 people who made decisions on it.
this time there was. (Mainly for the Mythics). there was a large discussion about it in discord.
I wouldnāt mind seeing Harleking get the buff with a friendly Supershell.
You were there when I was looking for input on the mythics this time around (I did a very clear discussion both in clan chat and on discord). Also, still waiting on you making a list with Sherlock and Duckā¦ so do I have to keep hearing this from you?
Make it pierce in addition to stun immune and focus
Not saying you didnāt take community input 
I told Sherlock and Duck I didnāt have time for that, but if they wanted my opinion Iād give it. So that comment is irrelevant to me.
My comment was directed more towards the people in general than you, as the official list should really belong to the people 
Well you were basically saying one person made the decisions for it, yet many people helped with the decision making 
So you randomly decided to add that comment about it ābelonging to the peopleā? I really donāt see how it added anything except coming across a bit rude to me personally. You say that you donāt have time to do a tier list yourself but youāll happily comment that I should spend even more time than I already do by also having extra conversations with a small group of people. Seems a bit rich. I hope you can see where Iām coming from
