No, it isn’t.
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I’m genuinely of the opinion that tyrfina deserves at least B tier, I’ve played the awakened one twice, and she’s genuinely so obnoxious and good for comebacks. The high speed means it’s very very hard to kill her before she gets a turn, and if she can get a first turn punish it’s really hard to stop her from getting a second one due to the rocks she adds. From the brink means her one kill bloodmove does like 3k ish damage too
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Glad to hear the words of praise for her!
Bloodcrush with 1 kill deals about 3300 before from the brink and just over 4000 afterwards
Ah so I was right with the number but off with whether it had the attack boost. But I forgot to add that she can do instant OW after the first punish and that’s when she becomes a pain in the ■■■
Can someone explain to me why Leogeist is S tier. I mean she is a good mon but for example polaboss has not only hold ground, he also has detox punch (kinda a poison counter) and lifedrain. The only good ability leogeist has is stun converter. She is easy to kill thats why lifeflip is often useless and her secret skill isnt that good either compared to polaboss skill. So either leogeist should 1 or 2 tiers down or polaboss up. Im talking about pvp obviously
Leogeist deserves S tier because it has stun counter, which protects your entire team from stun while also giving it turns just like a stun converter. The passive is incredibly strong, which is why angelion is S+ tier and why many poseidon strategies are also S+ tier imo. Leogeist’s moveset isn’t as powerful as all of the other stun counters, which is why it is in S
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Thats what im talking about.
Btw Leogeist is S tier rn.
Oh whoops yeah I meant S tier lol. It’s the same tier as polaboss because the extra stun protection makes up for it being easy to kill and slow to get going
Nah if stun converter is enough for S tier than more mons with stun converter deserve S tier. But polaboss is so much better that i cant say that leogeist deserve to be in the same tier as polaboss. Either polaboss deserves S+ or leogeist S-
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Stun counter, not stun converter. The difference is that all of your allies are immune to stun and leogeist automatically gets a turn whenever any of your allies get stunned. Stun converter only works on one monster
Ik Thats sounds great and she is pretty strong but not on the same lvl as other mons in S tier.
On the other hand she only has 1 ability and her attacks are not that great without lifedrain or hold ground
Personally, I prefer leogeist over polaboss. Polaboss gets stunned way too easily and I like having another layer of stun protection on my team
ngl I prefer Leo even over Angel
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I think she is 25 sec, and i think she is op now. she can easily turn the situation very easily. Thing can sweep any charged mons within 25 the moment she enters the field. I am pretty sure people were complaining abt the same thing when some of the mons did the same, i still think this is understatement now after getting swept by her in pvp.
Obviously depends on the team but angel takes no time to get going, most of the time anyways
@SyCon There’s a huge difference between stun counter and stun converter! I agree with you that Leogeist can die easily (more easily than Polaboss) but the stun protection it offers is very useful and crescendo blast works beautifully with stun counter because it means you can do one-shot damage much sooner if there is any stun around. Also, any extra turns means you get towards high damage on crescendo faster.
As a sweeper, Polaboss is definitely better. However, the stun protection more than makes up for that. All things considered, I think the two monsters are almost exactly the same power level in PvP.
Thanks for an additional opinion. I’ll bump Tyrfina up another tier right away. I’m very happy to put her higher (I put her in A tier originally then was sad to see she was actually clunky haha). I’ve also adjusted my post to say D → B.
I think you’ll understand immediately when you face an awakened version of her, shes probably one of the best midgame-late midgame comeback units for breaking enemy momentum when they have the upper hand, she might be worth a tier higher but I’m not convinced of that yet. That being said, there’s a bit of risk with her if their aren’t any targets for punish, especially since S. Fox is so common with stealthbane, and the rock she summons can backfire in situations like facing a rocklock team or poison endgame
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