šŸ† Neo Monsters tier list (see first post) šŸ†

S+ obviously

S tier will be good imo.

if I was told to choose excaliburdragon and galvbishamon. I prefer Galvbishamon, the team building is easier and the rewards obtained are more visible.

I think…Even before buffing, I used galvbishamon more often than excalibur when it came to pvp. But for PvE it’s a different story, Excaliburdragon is much better.:sweat_smile:

Definitely better than exalibur no doubt. I think slayerbane was unique to wolfroze and they gave to galv now.

Don’t forget my boy prismaryx, he has it too. Since he also has stunt double he gets to just spam it repeatedly.

The fact that galv is 89 speed, has piercing pretty much all time now with mythics everywhere, a bloodmove that gets charged easily and the good ol galv stun control. This lil sheet is now on the lvl pola was in his prime

Yeah it’s an obvious S+ now. Only need a single mythic in the enemy team and it will piercing kill two things on entry… that’s kind of nuts! It can follow it up with fast piercing sweeping too. I was very surprised to see that buff

Galv was everyone’s favorite for so long, I guess they just wanted him back on top.

Also, shouldnt you be getting ready for your wedding?!

Also also, I hereby decree: if someone so much as even mentions a hint of this game, evertale, or kings road during a toast, I demand that you drink an extra shot of liquor as soon as is available to you. I shall be checking in on this to verify follow through. Deadly serious, hands are tied, you’ve got no say in the matter.

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This is meh

KD i think that the General tier list for superepics is either outdated or just wrong lol.

my first gripe (and the reason i was checking the tier list to begin with) is Horrorclaw. Currently it is in B Tier. now i understand that you can make the arguement that in lower tiers of PvE it isn’t as effective as the stolen monster might be a weaker power level however at the same time you are still getting an extra monster on your team. when i look at some of the monsters that are in the B tier compared to Horrorclaw it seems bizarre. He is one of the best PvE monsters in the game VS buffed regardless of the fact he is a superepic.

Secondly, and this saddens me a little, i feel like the P.Gs have fallen off the pace. there are too many shieldbreakers and Piercing killers nowadays that these golems have weaknesses too. that, along with the fact it takes so much setup to use them in the first place makes me feel lile they should all respectively drop down a tier.

Thanks to the recent mechanic change to vineyes AI vinegazer should probably drop down to S tier.

Abyssclaw Should be S+ tier. not really much else i can say about it. been using it a lot and it feels great.

Redybugs nerf hit it harder than i think we realized and it should probably drop to A tier.

Cryptblade just got a really nice buff. D tier is ridiculous for him. he should be AT LEAST A tier.

AS shock is one i sometimes use if i need a payback killer. while he is definitely not meta for PvE i think E tier is harsh. probably D tier.

Tezcatlipoca is a monster I’ve been playing around with a lot recently. while his poison revenge holds him back a lot and he needs time to do his thing i was even able to use it in UC reasonably well. honestly i think he just gets so little play people dont realise he is actually a decent little control monster for things like Death Sentence and Bomb. i would have it at B tier pushing A.

Probably a controversial opinion, especially considering the previous monster needs time - but i think all of the 400tu bomb monsters all need to drop down a tier. simply put they take too long to do thier thing and nowadays thier damage doesn’t always kill opponents.

Oshi-oni is very effective because of its camouflage, with the amount of humanoids around it just keeps getting stronger lol. i would move it to S- tier.

Earth Starter monster isn’t as good as other monsters in S tier. i would drop it to S- or even A.

Arborgias should be S+++++.

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Thanks for all the input. I agree some of these haven’t been updated properly since buffs/nerfs or I overlooked them when scanning over all the monsters and seeing if something was out of place. I’ll take a look at all the monsters you mentioned.

A big thing to keep in mind though… the SEs for general is aimed at newer players. While it mostly aligns with what veterans consider strong, there are some outliers. That’s why I’ve made the section ā€œSuper Epics veterans utiliseā€. In that you’ll see monsters like Horrorclaw and Tezcatlipoca. However, looking at that now I can see I missed adding Cryptblade after its buff.

The reality is that most SEs are very short-lived in their use, being replaced by legendaries and mythics after the first few months of playing. So I’ve tried to rank stuff based on that. Viridzardon (earth starter) is a funny one because I think it’s a great monster for new players. It’s one both me and my brother used for maybe a couple of years before benching it (these days I’d expect people using it for maybe 1 year).

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When editing the posts it’s messed up the formatting. Are other people seeing that too? If so, I’m going to go complain to the forum software makers. They seem to have changed it so images embedded within dropdowns are not taking normal formatting. If nothing changes, I may have to bring them out of the dropdowns so they’re always on display

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Did you move Cryptblade? Of those I mentioned he is the one i feel most strongly about.

Ye the tier list formatting is weird. Doing images in a column rather than in rows.

:woozy_face:

The format has been fixed.

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I feel like plume is excellent awakened, but is better in 2nd form like pre nerf Moji. Simply for what it offers and the cost associated with it.

I disagree pretty strongly. The awakened form is much better. The thing is, it’s cost-efficient and good in 2nd form too so it feels great in both forms.

True,awakened form’s baby summon plus more bulk is proof.
(Plus auto taunt+)

It’s a buff all over the moveset. Double counterstrike is an excellent move which 2nd form doesn’t even have.

2nd form is just there for being in the way and absorbing stun, often summoning one baby if it gets a turn and then dying.

Awakened is more likely to block, has a genuinely very good sweeping move, can summon 2 babies at lower TU so you can more realistically get another turn and the babies can come with HP boost too so the total tanking it does is far greater. That’s for +3 cost. You then have lots of build around potential for an extra +2 cost.

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