🎉 Monster Shop Update: Ore of Vitality

In your next message, please think of all the positives of having the advantage too, your argument is becoming way too one-sided and fails to grasp the bigger picture of things.

No matter how much time you put into the game, new or past players should be able to catch up because if they don’t there is no room for competition

You got something for free on top of it being free you were rewarded gems and 2 years of pure advantage over others

You see 1200 gems and 2 years of advantage plus is not fair, for what you got for free am sorry but i would find it hard to believe

Whatever it is, that won’t come close to the time I spent grinding hp boosts. Also I know for a fact you’d be in complete agreement with me if you grinded them too.

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The advantage is no different to someone who’s played longer and has a bigger monster collection. I don’t think there’s any point talking about that.

Mr.X’s perspective is about the gems cost to catch up, which is actually small in the grand scheme of things it’s just because it’s two years packed into a single lump sum cost that it looks big. However, it’s a cost he now has to pay.

Coltraz’s perspective is about how it feels to have his effort (in terms of time) taken away. He feels it’s been disrespected. It’s just a feeling, but it’s equally valid.

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Your a player i respect in terms of competitiveness and i would disagree with you on this point.

I did the same with legendary pots when they were the main source of advantage and i always said they should be accessible to everyone, i woundnt have minded even if they were handed out for free because i enjoyed their advantage for years i put competitiveness at the top

I don’t think everyone feels disrespected. Some people are okay with it, some people are not.
I lost interest in PVE a long time ago. Even the new Island challenge i skipped entirely because the reward monsters are not even worth anymore. That to me this is an indication of how worthless PVE is becoming and that’s the real issue at hand.

Just a reminder to everyone, just like investing money, only invest in the game the time you are okay losing. If that time grinding was so important in your life you should’ve used some other way. The game is constantly changing and good things and bad things will happen, if we demand compensation for one thing, we have to demand compensation for everything because everyone here, one way or another, got their time invested completely thrown away by nerfs, new mechanics, stupid restriction rules and many other things.

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But when someone relatively new would eventually catch up with the collection, they would have had no possibility of catching up with HP boosts, which would always give the veterans the extra few % of performance.

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I think it’s fine that they added hp ores to the shop but 1 gem each is way too cheap. Now an hp boost costs the same as two and a half packs. Also you could get one mythic copy from 600 gems on average. Would you rather get six hp boosts or one mythic copy? That seems like an easy choice for me.

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Not really what they were talking about

This is way less considering weekly and monthly deals now. Basically 2 monthly deals and you get to the level of people who played consistently for 2 years.

From a veteran’s perspective the HP boost is the obvious choice since it gives a guaranteed boost. For a newer spender it’s not a big hurdle, but for a newer non-spending player it’s still 4 or 5 shrines worth of gems if you think about the averages. Depending on how much they play it will take 2-3 months of serious grinding.

You say its cheap but lets make the appropriate comparison

600 gems where players have to spend

Against

600 gems where players were rewarded
Got the chance to use this advantage for two years, were able to score high ranks due to this advantage
Had to spend about 5-8 minutes at max playing the game

As of today where would you want to be

So at most 2-3 months of serious grinding while some of us had to play day by day for 650 days. Nice!

They can just tell all spenders that they wasted time and could get it all by 6 clicks.

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Do you honestly think the advantage you have in the game is because of the hp ores you were grinding for 2 years?

I think the last post from Coltraz and Mr.X each express both sides of thought perfectly.

If this goes on too long us moderators are going to have to step in to put an end to it so that other discussion topics can happen here. That said, thanks to you all for keeping the conversation civil :slight_smile:

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Still 2-3 months of completing every event, getting every PvP reward. AND they can’t hatch at the same time.

I’ve never done that, it takes way too much time. If someone is able to do that, all the power to them!

Once again, everyone was allowed to grind and have HP boosted monsters. Those who did not do it decided it by themselves.

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The mythic copy, for sure. I don’t even have the 600 gems to spend on the ores, so it will probably be done slowly by many people anyway. I rather use the gems to roll for monsters and buy the odd ore here and there.

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Alright so the players who’d benefit more from the six hp boosts than a single featured mon would be the ones who:

  • care about pvp
  • don’t have a baby sized collection
  • aren’t broke

I think quite a lot of players meet the criteria and most of them aren’t veterans.

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As someone who’s played with many HP boosts for a long time I can say with some certainty you should absolutely buy them for the shop. They’re insanely cheap at 600 gems for the benefit they give you.

Obviously 600 gems is a fair chunk of gems, but in the long-term it’s an excellent investment.

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