I think that leogenist ruin the pvp game, with his pasive (stun absorber).
I think he is too strong, you can’t really go around him.
I got alot of stun revenge monsters, which is useless against him, the other team just focus them, and get the avengers of the stun.
I think it’s fair that we have Protector that got that spell, but a monster that also is a sweeper it’s just too overpowered for pvp.
Ofc is this just my opinion.
He’s vulnerabe to sleep, has no way to get rid of charged mons aside from crescendo blast 200 TU. He’s not hard to play around. Just reduce the amount of stun entrance on your team and shift the focus to a different side of support and it should work well. I’d say about only 1/5 times Leogeist actually causes problems for me.
It takes him a long time to begin sweeping, then 200 for 1 shot or two 50s, you can either kill him early or knock him back, he’s not invulnerable.
I think some of the new additions are to diversify teams.
You stun everything? Might be a Leo about.
Protect heavy? Here’s RObochicken!
Sleep much? Banedragon or enter the abyss.
I’d like to see if I can get Leo and dragonman double teaming everything in sight on a 50Tu
Dragonman has HG in his ultra form doesn’t he? That actually makes him a bit more problematic.
Also, can I just say here Doomengine is the most annoying legendary ever.
dragonman also have hp sharing, wish i have him 
Hasa I hope that catches on, I have no idea what his name his but he looks like a ninja super hero with a dragon tail so I’m gonna stick with it.
He has hold ground but no stun absorb, hp share not flip. In general I’d say Leo is more useful more often.
my aim is to have the two of them accelerated to 40, and taking everything out with a one two. If I get it to work once I’ll be happy 
Leogeist takes absorber role and its damn good
It can fill transition from 1st tank to 2nd tank in my team
I think that leogenist ruin the pvp game, with his pasive (stun absorber).
I think he is too strong, you can’t really go around him.
I got alot of stun revenge monsters, which is useless against him, the other team just focus them, and get the avengers of the stun.
I think it’s fair that we have Protector that got that spell, but a monster that also is a sweeper it’s just too overpowered for pvp.
Ofc is this just my opinion.
The trick is not to have stun revenge/entrance all together… Try having them separated and don’t use too many of them… He is indeed very powerful against stun team, but that’s his purpose… If the enemy doesn’t have stunners Leo is just average if not bad, unless you pair him with team turners/turn givers… But in that case you are better off with other sweepers…
He can be abit stealthy if you get him in with more ‘dangerous targets’.
I’ve had a few matches where I started with him and people just attack other things, keep plugging away and suddenly if you get the opportunity he can be a monster.
I really really like him, looks nice too.
Yeah, that’s true 
but in that case you need a pretty long set up time, so it’s not like it’s unfair and uncounterable…
He’s one of my favorite legends too, both aesthetically and strategically
I love leogenist and use him in an assist team. He has won the majority of my matches for me; I think I’m currently ranked in the 50s. Almost everyone I’ve faced stuns following up their front line and if you can quickly take out a few monsters he becomes invaluable in saving your front line. His passive is his only utility however, and he becomes useless if you face the wrong team.
Leogists for me are free food. Only had 1 leogist be a problem in the 100+ pvp battles I have done.
What setup are you running zard?
Mostly poison. I have a double protector with deathchicken and abyssraider into unfriender flarevern.
double protect teammates or…autoprotect
with the amount of robinators around… I cant seem to think thats effective
Caniswyrm and armavolt.
I fought you once, felt like your team was specifically built to annoy me haha.
What was your team?
I have noticed that a lot of robinators come with protectors as well. My robinator goes before theirs because mine is +5. Plus killing him perfectly sets up abyssraider. I haven’t had many problems with them.
My average point level is 730 at the moment if that says anything.
Thunder front line, death sentence then poison.
Forgot who won that. Canis is annoying.